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Sterilising of umbilicus

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Michele
Nursing Foal
Username: Mich

Post Number: 20
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could someone please tell me what the best thing to use for sterilising the foal's umbilicus is? i.e. something more effective than iodine. Is is necessary to apply it daily for a week or so?
Many thanks
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Admin

Post Number: 1122
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You should use ½ (one-half)% chlorhexidine. This is made by mixing a liquid product such as Nolvasan (which is 2% chlorhexidine) at an 3:1 dilution ratio with sterile water or saline. Check the concentration of chlorhexidine in the product you are using and dilute appropriately (different products may have different concentrations). You should apply it 3 or 4 times a day until the umbilicus has dried up (usually 4 or 5 days).

In case anyone is reading this and saying that they have use iodine for years, the above is the latest recommendation based on research that showed that 7% iodine was too caustic, and was associated with a higher percentage of patent urachus and navel ill as a result of tissue sloughing. Betadine on the other hand (a dilute iodine solution) does not have the same superior anti-bacterial properties that the chlorhexidine does (which is about the same as the 7% iodine without the caustic effect).
 

Elise Krueger
Weanling
Username: Elise

Post Number: 21
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow....good to know. Thanks Jos.
I am deffinitely one of those that have used 7% iodine for 30 years with no problems....but I have learned something new and will use the chlorhiexidine as you recommend. Thanks. I love this site !!!
 

Teena Bain
Nursing Foal
Username: Bluejay

Post Number: 18
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jos, GREAT information. I too have used the Iodine and ended up with exaxtly what you said could happen once. I have the Nolvasan and did use it last year. I think that is what I will stick to from now on. Thank you
 

Michele
Weanling
Username: Mich

Post Number: 24
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you v. much for that info. Phoned the pharmacy to be told that chlorhexidine has been taken off the market here?!
The vets seem to still be using it in the form of Hibitane though.
I was advised instead to use F10 (quaternary ammonium and biguanidine compounds 5.8%). Do you know the product and is it suitable?
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Admin

Post Number: 1126
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where are you located?

F10 has not to the best of my knowledge been researched and found to be suitable for the neonatal umbilicus.
 

Michele
Weanling
Username: Mich

Post Number: 26
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Sunday, January 07, 2007 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In RSA; the F10 was recommended by a vet instead of Hibitane as he felt it would do the job better?
 

Ruth
Weanling
Username: Rooty

Post Number: 43
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The purple teat dip is chlorhexidine. Don't know the concentration off the top of my head, but it can be used full strength on a cow's udder. Just add saline as Jos suggested to get the 0.5% strength that you need.
 

Ruth
Weanling
Username: Rooty

Post Number: 48
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I checked the chlorhexidine strength on the purple teat dip and it is 0.475%.
Jos, is that close enough to 0.5% to use?
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Admin

Post Number: 1149
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Probably yes, but check what else there may be in it and if those other ingredients could pose a problem (unlikely, but good to check ahead of using it!).
 

Jodi Maki
Neonate
Username: Mysteryarabpt

Post Number: 8
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We use http://www.equineelite.com/relief.html: ANTIMICROBIAL SPRAY, then the ANTIMICROBIAL WOUND RELIEF ( LOTION )...
 

Ruth
Weanling
Username: Rooty

Post Number: 49
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are a couple of emoliants(sp?) in the purple teat dip, can't remember exactly which ones, but anyhoo, for those of you looking for Hibitane, just buy a jug of this stuff at your local farm supply...
 

heather sanders
Neonate
Username: Charlotsmom

Post Number: 10
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have looked for Nolvasan and my one question is which one???? when i went to the jeffers online there was 4 diff types i know for sure of the 2 its not ,but which one is it that should be used on the foal??
thank u
 

Megan A Brown
Breeding Stock
Username: Fabmeg

Post Number: 197
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you want the solution, not the scrub.
 

Kjersti Tackett
Weanling
Username: Freetodream

Post Number: 25
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is good to know we've always used iodine. Without ordering it where are places that I could look to buy it locally (I don't think our first mare to foal is going to wait for me to order it). I've looked in every feed/tack store without luck. Wal-mart and other stores don't carry it either. Is it something I'd have to ask the pharmisist behind the counter for? Isn't it a human product too? Thanks for the ideas,
Kjersti
 

Lynne Kuehner
Neonate
Username: Shenandoah96

Post Number: 2
Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kjersti, this won't help you much since I don't know if you can get chlorhexidine locally, but I found a website that has Chlorhexidine Solution (1 gallon) for only $5. The site is www.arssales.com. It seems to be the same as Nolvasan just in the generic.
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Admin

Post Number: 1171
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Feed and farm stores in the USA will typically carry it.
 

Vicki Gaudreau
Neonate
Username: Vickigaudreau

Post Number: 1
Registered: 08-2001
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've ordered from catalogs, or bought it at feed stores or even Walmart.



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