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Abortion at 190 days

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Larisa Stogsdill
Neonate
Username: Larisa

Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2010
Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare aborted today at around 190 days gestation. She coliced very badly 2 weeks ago and the vet mentioned it was a possibiliy but I didn't think she would 2 weeks later. My vet did not seem to concerned about it. Is there anything I need to look for or get checked? I have never had one abort before.

thank you,
Larsa
 

Jos
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Post Number: 3067
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anytime a mare aborts for unknown reasons, it is valuable to send the aborted fetus and the membranes (placenta and amnion) for a necropsy. You may need to have your vet sign off on the requisition.
 

Larisa Stogsdill
Neonate
Username: Larisa

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Registered: 04-2010
Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Jos. The vet is positive that it was the colic that caused it. I pressed for a necropsy but she said it was not necessary.

When they abort is it normal for everything to come out intact? The amnion was not ruptured and the placenta was whole. I think I need a new vet, this one doesn't seem to have time to answer my questions

Larisa
 

Jos
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Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No. A mid to late term abortion will most commonly follow the same pattern as a foaling: Rupture of the allantois, passage of allantoic fluid, presentation of the amnion and the fetal feet therein, rupture of the amniotic sac, passage of the fetus, passage of the allantois ("placenta").

Passage of the entire fetus and amnion still contained fully within the allantoic sac indicates placental separation. It would be unlikely that this would happen completely without there having been some sort of issue present - placentitis being a likely possibility. Note I say "unlikely"! I have long since stopped using absolutes such as "always" and "never" when dealing with equine reproduction!

Really the only way you would find out is with a necropsy, and that would have been valuable as if it were a placentitis situation, that could suggest a uterine or cervical issue, or possibly even an infectious cause such as EHV-1 or EVA.
 

Jan Owen
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Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 2761
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2010 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Larisa...I am so sorry for your loss. I would definitely have the mare checked before you rebreed. Cystology and Culture.



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