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281 days gestation

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Solaris
Nursing Foal
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 12
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One of our mares is at 281 days gestation today. She is well bagged up, colustrum all down her back legs with whitened wax on teats. Vulva fuller, tail head and quaters slackened off. Baby hanging pretty low and back.Carrying good weight. Mare outwardly bright with good appetite no signs of discomfort. If we were one month further on I would say ok look like shes getting ready. Vets on his way. . Eight year old maiden. Mare 16.3 stallion 17hhs Any advice treatment recomendations greatly appreciated
 

Diana Gilger
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Post Number: 2824
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Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, I know alot of people might do the regumate thing at this point, but I have no experience with it.....hope all goes well for you and your mare!
 

Rebecca Cook
Weanling
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 01-2010
Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On Jeannie she did much the same. We did regumate, smz's and banamine for almost 2 months. She bagged up at Thanksgiving and is now 325 and looks like she will foal here shortly. Good luck!
 

Ad TB
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Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Solaris. I'd be getting the vet to ultrasound her placenta for signs of placentitis. Vets use a measurement called CTUP combined thickness of uterus and placenta. The thickness should not be greater than 8mm between 271 and 300 days, 10mm between 300 and 330. It's best to scan trans-rectally whn determining CTUP. The vet can also check the foetal heart beat on a trans-abdominal US. Check for vulvar discharge. The vet should use a speculum if she has discharge to check her cervix and mucus plug. If the speculum does not pass easily into the vagina it's likely that the mucus plug is still intact and this shouldn't be disturbed. Treatment for placentitis is aimed at treating the infection, reducing the imflammation and maintaining the pregnany. A swab of vulvar discharge should be taken to identify the organism causeing the infection. Glad you have the vet coming because a mare showing foaling signs at 281 days is an emergency. I hope you have a good result
 

Diana Gilger
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Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ad TB, you never cease to amaze me.....yer so smart....always good to learn something new!
 

Solaris
Nursing Foal
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 13
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Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you everyone for your replies and support.
There is no sign of any discharge at the moment. All vital signs are normal. He has examined her internally and said the foal is positioned with the head in the direction of the cannal but not engaged. He has taken bloods and will call me tomorow to see how things are. I will discuss your suggestions with him. Obviously feeling very anxious and fearing the worse lies ahead.
 

Solaris
Nursing Foal
Username: Solaris

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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

24hrs later and still so far so good. I have found a number of experiences shared online of mares waxing and dripping for up to 40 days or longer. So am now starting to ponder if this is a possibility, having had mares drip wax for three weeks pre foaling albeit within closer proximity to term this could I guess be a possibility that all is still well. Keeping a careful eye on her on the cam. She is still showing all signs of impending labor but as we know some mares are less tolerant of their discomfort in their later stages of gestation. Now collecting the colostrum and freezing it. Hadnt bargained being up through the night quite so early in the season. The joys...... :-)
 

Ad TB
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Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 03:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Solaris, has your vet checked her for a placentitis... The main sign of placentitis is premature bagging up and waxing.. If your vet is not concerned about a mare that is waxing at 281 days I'd be looking for an explanation. She's two months premature and the foal will not be viable.
 

Cjskip
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Username: Cjskip

Post Number: 1024
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Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Solaris-my thoughts are with you. Sounds very scary. Hope she makes it until the foal is more viable. You are smart to collect the colostrum. One of my mares was streaming milk a couple of weeks before she foaled. I didn't think to collect it. I just thought she would foal any minute.

Anyway, please keep us posted. Also, did you happen to follow up on checking for placentitis? Thanks for the info. AdTB. I will certainly keep this is mind if it happens again.
 

Solaris
Nursing Foal
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 15
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Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ad TB The vet is confident that there are no signs of placentitis, no discharge, cervix tightly closed all vital signs normal eating well outwardly bright, no temperature, etc. He has consulted with the equine reproduction specialist at our local university clinic who has advised that regumate could be used but he personally does not feel that it will have any affect ??? H e also stated that if Placentistis was the cause that we should be seeing discharge by now. ??? So here I am at 2am 72 hours later watching her like a hawk. :-(
 

Solaris
Nursing Foal
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 16
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Cjskip we have had a number of mares run for several weeks so it's routine procedure at the stud really. We have also checked the records and only one follcile was present so twinning is unlikely but never say never. :-( This is so worrying, she looks so well in herself. The foal must defintely be lying awkwardly and causing her discomfort as she has not lain down at all and rubbing her back end against the wall :-(

The vet has also suggested that it could be the sheer size and postion of the foal that is inducing stimulation and secretion of the glands considering how far advanced she looks considering the foals stage of gestation. :-(
 

Ad TB
Breeding Stock
Username: Ajvtbs

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Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The two main causes for premature bagging up, waxing and running milk that I can think of are Placentitis or twins. A vet can not make a diagnosis or abscence of placentitis based on the presence of a discharge or not or a mares vital signs being normal. Sometimes there is no discharge or the discharge does not occur until just prior to abortion.
An ultrasound examination of her placenta to measure the combined thickness of her uterus and placenta and evaluation of the presence of premature placental seperation should ALWAYS be done by any competent vet in a mare that there is suspected placentitis. Studies have shown that treatment with an oral antibacterial called trimethoprim sulfamethoxazole/ Sulfamethoxazole-Trimethoprim (SMZ), anti-inflammatories e.g Finadyne/ banamine plus a drug called pentoxifylline (trental), plus a double dose of Regumate has been shown to be effective in preventing abortion in some cases. The EARLIER the diagnosis and treatment the better the outcome. A few days can make a huge difference. I really hope things go well for you but I don't believe you have got a sufficient examination of diagnosis from your vet.
 

Jos
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Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Early research results suggest that giving placentitis mares estrogen significantly improves the pregnancy maintenance and live foal rates as well (follow that link for the research).
 

kiara
Nursing Foal
Username: Solaris

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Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Ad TB - I agree :-( Having read everything thoroughly I am convinced that this is very much a case of Placentitis and treatment needs to start immediately. Will keep you posted and hope I am not too late. Can placentitis linger for several weeks? are there various levels and degrees of infection?
 

Ad TB
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 03:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keep us posted.. The earlier the treatment the better the outcome and as you said treatment needs to start immediately. I hope things go well for you
 

Linda Bauer -- Frost 4/15/2010
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This was my experience with a mare bagging early:
I had a mare show all signs of foaling @ 290 days. Vet did ultrasound and placenta was within normal range. On the high side of normal, but normal. He went ahead and put her on Regumate, SMZ, and banamine. 5 days later she aborted with twisted umbilical. I had him send the placenta in to CSU to make sure there wasn’t any infection and it came back clean.
I rebred her and the next year @ 282 days she started doing the same thing, vet just put her on Regumate, SMZ, banamine. Kept her on all this until she was around 46 wks, than I stopped the regumate and banamine. She foaled @ 334 days.
Hope your mare and foal are ok.
 

kiara
Nursing Foal
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 18
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone. Mares still holding. Vet came and scanned the placenta its 1mm thick, sadly he had finished by the time I arrived on the yard, he didn't scan the CTUP :-( I tried to explain having sent him the article had hoped he would have read it as refernce but said he would read it tonight <<<sigh>>> Anyway he has given me Regumate and Equitrim antibiotics.
I have understood from postings and articles that I need to give her a double dose of regumate twice the normal doseage? Is this correct?
The foal is alive and head positioned very high and god heartbeat.
He hasnt given me anti inflamatories but I have my own supply of danalon?
Please let me know asap so I can get started with this treatment.
 

Ad TB
Breeding Stock
Username: Ajvtbs

Post Number: 964
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, glad the mare is still holding on. I'm sorry your vet didn't give you the answers you were looking for.. It must be very frustrating for you especially when you're doing your best having the vet out twice to her. I'm not a vet (my fiance is) and I live in Ireland so I'm not familar with the names of some of the drugs you're using. We don't have Equitrim or Danalon here unless they have a different name here like smz's (we call in Trimediazine) banamine (we call it finadyne).
What I do know is what my vet prescribes for a placentitis
*Antibiotics to fight infection: smz's
*Anti-inflammatories to reduce inflammation: Banamine
*To increase blood flow to the placenta: Pentoxifylline (Trental)
*To help to maintain the pregnancy: Double does of regumate.

The regumate dosage will depend on your mares weight, typical dosage is 1ml per 110lbs (single dose).

I know some drugs are better at treating different ailments. Hope things go well for you and maybe someone here who is more familar with the drugs you are using can help you out
 

Rebecca Cook
Weanling
Username: Rcook

Post Number: 32
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe Equitrim is a fancy smz formulation, not sure of danalon.
 

Jos
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Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, it looks as though you're both from the eastern end of the Atlantic - one of you from Scotland, and one from Ireland - so there shouldn't be too much difference in the drug names! :-)

"Equitrim" is Trimethoprim and Sulphadiazine.
"Danalon" is, I suspect, "Danilon" which is suxibuzone a NSAID.

BTW, since you're both "on that side of the pond", in case you're interested, we're giving a 3-day equine reproduction short course in Gloucestershire in a couple of weeks - follow that link for more details!
 

kiara
Nursing Foal
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 19
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jos would love to but under the circumstances at the moment can't make any promises.J.A. invited me down today when I called him in desperation ......... he put us and the stallions through our paces last year learning to collect and process semen from the boys. so are now very efficient with collections processing and dispatch LOL Should have called him earlier.

Anyway I feel so much better now. Still concerned but at least I am giving it my best shot. Just couldn't bare sitting watching her thinking I should be doing something more to aid the situation. SOOO fraustrating as you say AD TB

I stand corrected in my spelling and grammar, daughter of two educationalists I should know better! LOL ;)

To be honest I'm just plain shattered with doing the night shift day shift and night shift again, can't believe the gibberish I wrote in my last post! but at least you all understood. oof

Ad Tb I'm just across the pond in Scotland. Jos is right Danilon is bute so basically the Anti-inflammatories.
Equitrim is Trimethoprim and Sulp}hadiazine. Broad spectrum antibiotics.

She is 16.3hh would estimate her weight at 500kgs and have given her 20mls

Should I treat her once or twice daily?
I don't have the Pentoxifylline, Jamie mentioned it today, my vets going to be shaking his head at me tomorow when I ask him for it

(Message edited by solaris on February 08, 2010)

(Message edited by solaris on February 08, 2010)
 

kiara
Nursing Foal
Username: Solaris

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Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Linda thank you for sharing your experience.So sorry for your loss :-(
Evidently as we still don't have a confirmed diagnosis that the mare has Placentitis your scenario may still be a possibility. If nothing else six days have at least past just praying she can hold on. Definitely one very active little foal.

Have I understood correctly that placentitis accelerates the maturation of the foal?
 

Jos
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Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glad you're in touch with J. He's a good resource.

Foals are likely to be born "early" (bearing in mind that there is no such thing as a "due date" in the equine!) as placentitis does often accelerate fetal development. You should also be aware that the foal once born is a high-risk candidate for neonatal septicaemia, having been exposed to a pathogen in utero, so prophylactic antibiotics at birth are often considered a good idea.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

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Posted on Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He is indeed a breath of fresh air to the industry here in the UK. Will be on stand by with ABs.....
 

Ad TB
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Posted on Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How's your mare Kiara?
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

babies still inside, finished course of antibiotics today stopped running milk, turned to dried yellow crystals on teats. A lot more comfortable in her self, stopped rubbing etc. What next? Keep her on the regumate til 320 days if she holds that long? but what about the antibiotics and anti-inflamtories, should I continue?
 

Jos
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Posted on Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FWIW, the protocols that we have followed (and which have been referenced by theriogenologists) indicate keeping up antibiotics until foaling, and progestin and anti-inflammatory treatment until 310-320 days of pregnancy (remember she may foal "early" as placentitis can promote early fetal maturation).

JMHO... :-)
 

Ad TB
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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Jos, we've had mares with placentitis before and kept them on antibiotics, anti-inflammatories and regumate up until foaling. You might consider starting her on gastroguard or some gastro protective agent if you're keeping up anti-inflammatories to prevent ulcers.

The other thing to be aware of is her chances of having a red bag foaling and or sceptic foal are high because of the placentitis.

Hope she keeps holding on for you.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks once again. She's back to running milk once more started this morning :-( The freezer well stocked with colostrum and will keep her on everything till 320 days. We have an alternative to Gastroguard, just cant think what its called but used it with success on a poorly mare last year, its in granuale form and is very popular with the racing yards due to the expense of Gastroguard, will check the sell by date failing that could try her on a probiotic or some natural yoghurt I guess.
 

Cjskip
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Username: Cjskip

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Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 02:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, how is she doing???
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 24
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Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Cjskip she's still holding! reducing her regumate by 1ml per day still on antibiotics and anti inflammatories. Past the critical critical part as now past the 300 days but the worry isn't over yet. She s looking great good appetite and carrying good weight and generally having a ball when she is turned out kicking up her heels bucking rolling and strutting her stuff... so obviously she feels well in her self. She leaks on and off but have plenty of Colustrum stored in readiness. Vet knows I want an IcG carried out and will be in attendance as soon as he can get here when the time comes. Will cover foalie with antibiotics and use the foal starter packs that we have on stand by too to give the additional nutrients to compliment the colustrum. Just have to do everything we can when the time comes to give mother and baby the best possible chance of survival.
 

Cjskip
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Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's great news, Kiara! I'm sending good non-foaling vibes your way. It's bad enough having to do foal watch-this is really unfair for you to do non-foaling and foaling watch!!!

I also meant to ask Solaris how things are going? I'm hoping that all is well. Did you ever get a definitive answer?
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes its hard... but will be worth it if everything turns out ok, I am now watching her and a maiden mare who is at 320 days Friday then another mare inseminated same day as the mare with suspected placentitis.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 26
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Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Officially at 320 days today. Last day of regumate and she has started running milk this morning. Is this caused by the treatment of regumate coming to an end?

(Message edited by solaris on March 23, 2010)
 

Cindy
Nursing Foal
Username: Cweber

Post Number: 17
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Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it is placentitis be prepared for a "red bag" delivery, there is a higher chance of this. Good luck!
 

Cjskip
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Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2010 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, Did you start a foal watch thread under Foal Watch 2009-2010, on the topics page? If not, you might want to?
 

Cathy
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Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any updates?
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

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Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

she still hasn't foaled, at 364 days today, no bag, no slackening, no signs at all of impending labour. Considering she went through all the signs when we thought she was going to abort I am half expecting her to show some signs....... think this is a record foal watch period for me.....
 

Brittany Hindes
Yearling
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Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow 364 days thats a long wait. I had a hard enough time waiting for my mare to deliver at 321 days. I hope she delivers soon for you.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 30
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Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Brittany officially hit a year today from insemination. Will wait a few more days but vet considering inducing her if we don't see progress. :-(
 

Susan
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Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, Do you see foal movement at all? My mare went 361 days last year. Felt like forever!! I always wondered if she came in heat after I bred her and my stud got her but I never seen nothing, but you know exactly when she was bred because she was inseminated. Right now she's 279 days and I am praying she goes way before that this year.

I'm praying everything works out for you. Its soooo scary not knowing. I'll be thinking of you and your mare. I myself have been through 2 very rough times before and dont wish that on anyone..

I know you said your vet was considering inducing her but do you know if the foal is in position to be born? I've just heard alot of bad stuff about doing that. I really hope it dont come to that and she just foals for you very soon.
Healthy foaling vibes sent your way!!!
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

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Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Susan under normal circumstances at 365 days we wouldnt be worried, had one mare deliver a strapping big colt last year at 364 days. The mare was scanned on Thursday foal is alive and moving and head facing in the right direction of the pelvis but was still quite far back when he palpated her. We are monitoring her for progress and will not induce unless we feel it is absolutely necessary. On a positive note her bag has become very firm today whereas yesterday it was unfilled and soft so at least a positive change in the right direction. Here's hoping this is the start of her getting ready and all is well. It's all been such a worry.
 

Susan
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Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, Thats good news though, so maybe just maybe she will foal within the next couple days.

Do you have any pics of this mare you can post? I'm sure we would all love to see her.
Think good thoughts because we are...
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

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Hi Susan not sure how to post pics on here.
maybe this will work.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Solaris-Sport-Horses/172503396747?v=photos#!/photo .php?pid=3991793&id=172503396747
 

Marilyn Lemke
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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, that poor mare!!! lol She is humongous! I hope she delivers soon, I don't see how she could get any bigger. Good thing horses don't get stretch marks! Shi is a beautiful mare and looks like she's a nice mover. I'll bet the foal will be gorgeous.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

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Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Marylyn she's a very gentle mare too, these were taken at about 335 days gestation, she hasn't gotten any bigger since then, if anything the foal has likely shifted position and now she actually looks smaller. We are at 366 days now and sadly no signs of imminenence .... :-(
 

Holly
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Oh My she was HUGE!!!! What a beautiful mare! I hope she foals soon.
 

Susan
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She is a Very Beautiful mare and yes she is Huge!! I to hope she foals soon.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

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Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes she's a big girl :-) 368 days today and still no changes......... sigh..... yawn zzzzzzzzzzz
 

Marilyn Lemke
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Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keep one eye open when you sleep Kiara, it's going to happen, hopefully soon. :-)
 

kiara
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Username: Solaris

Post Number: 35
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Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sleep? did you say sleep? whats that? I forgot .... 369 days and still living in hope...... but not showing any interest in having this baby........
 

Ad TB
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Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, I can't believe this mare still hasn't foaled, she must be driving you crazy! Any further progress?
 

kiara
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Username: Solaris

Post Number: 36
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Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

370 days and in short NO!
 

Susan
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Post Number: 379
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Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, I've been waiting and watching for your posts. How is your mare? Has she foaled? I hope everythings okay.. Please let us know...
 

Ad TB
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Username: Ajvtbs

Post Number: 1041
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Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, I'm wondering how things are going too
 

Cyndi
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Hi Kiara, I've learned so much by reading your post. I hope all is well with you mare. Please tell us how she is doing when you get a moment
 

kiara
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Username: Solaris

Post Number: 37
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

one week on and still no foal.. 377 days today. Her muscle tone has started to slacken very very slightly over her back end but not to the degree she was when everything kicked off.. we are watching her round the clock but not expecting anything to happen in the very near future. Her bag is not filled, she does have milk but its like that of a nursing mare, small hard and producing when drawn. No changes in her vulva, has gained a bit more weight below so confident foal is still developing and can only suspect that for a period the foal didnt develop perhaps caused by the placentitis who knows... I know they say rapid maturation often accompanies placentitis but wondering if it can also delay development. Will be sure to let you know as soon as she foals. Obviously very concerned. :-(
 

Susan
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Post Number: 382
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Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, Thanks for the update, we've all been wondering. I pray that everything works out and in the end you come out with a healthy mare and foal.
Healthy foaling vibes sent your way!!
 

Candi Shanholtzer
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Username: Canchaser

Post Number: 55
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Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara,

New baby?? I sure hope so for the sake of your sanity!! You are a trooper :-)
 

kiara
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Username: Solaris

Post Number: 38
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No :-( 380 days now. Really not sure that this foal will be ok.. so worrying.
 

Ad TB
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Username: Ajvtbs

Post Number: 1045
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Posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, I can't believe she's still in foal, I'd be getting the vet at this stage to make sure everything is ok, she looks huge, I'd be worrying that it may be a hydrops pregnancy looking at her size.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 39
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 04:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi vet scanned her and definitely a foal there, when he pushed down on the skull it rebounded, has done everytime he had examined her. Have heard of two foals born at 389 and 384 days this year both reported as doing fine. Not so sure this one will be just got to hang on. :-( Off to look at what Hydrops is. If nothing else the mare is looking fabulous fit and healthy lovely bloom to her.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 40
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 05:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looked Hydrops up and really the mare isn't abnormally sized and doesn't have edema or location of abnormnal swellings, she's a big German mare so looks well barelled but not abnormally so compared to the majority of our mares at full term some of which you would think were having triplets!
 

Pam Romjue
Nursing Foal
Username: Pammysue

Post Number: 13
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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for keeping us posted. I hope she foals soon for your sake and sanity! I've learned SO much reading this thread. What day is she at today?
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 41
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

she was inseminated 8th May had ovulated on morning scan the day after, vet says 386 days today, the foaling calculator says 383. If I'm not mistaken she had a really good few rolls last night and would have said foal has shifted but no changes other than that.
 

Pam Romjue
Nursing Foal
Username: Pammysue

Post Number: 14
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Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2010 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe she's waiting for the full moon! I believe it's on the 29th. Just read about a mare that has had her foals on the full moon for the last 2 years and looks like she'll do it again this year!
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 42
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL.. don't have a problem with that but the 30th March or the 28th Of April would have been a little more considerate over her. Just wondering does anyone know what the longest, officially recorded, viable gestation period been?
 

Susan Walker
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Username: Somedaysue

Post Number: 8
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not 100% sure of where I came across this information; it may have been on this board or from Jos, but my understanding is that the world's all-time longest gestation was 420 days!

I was able to check back because I keep a spreadsheet for all my pregnant mares that counts down to the various days, such as when the baby will be viable (last breeding date + 300 days - today's date), "average", etc. When I heard about the 420 day pregnancy, I masochistically added that to my spreadsheet, all the while knowing I would have gone insane long before that timeframe passed!
 

Pam Romjue
Nursing Foal
Username: Pammysue

Post Number: 18
Registered: 03-2010
Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi!

Well, do we have a foal yet? I just read the article on here titled "Is My Mare Overdue" and they said the longest gestation with a live foal was 445 days. I pray she doesn't go that long for your sake and sanity!

Keep us posted!
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 43
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Posted on Monday, May 31, 2010 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well the way she's going I can't see her foaling in the very near future... but I sure hope this comes to an end before that! If nothing else she looks fabulous a real picture of health.
 

Holly
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Username: Bonny

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Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kiara,
I cant believe she hasnt foaled yet. Do you have any new pictures of her?
 

Pam Romjue
Nursing Foal
Username: Pammysue

Post Number: 19
Registered: 03-2010
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are there any natural ways to encourage foaling? You know there are things pregnant woman can do to induce labor - I was just wondering if anyone knew of anything for horses???
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 44
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well if there are please please please let me know what they are.

I have camera shots of her over the weeks that have passed.

http://www.umenno.com/cappi1t.jpg
http://www.umenno.com/cappi3.jpg
http://www.umenno.com/cappi4.jpg
http://www.umenno.com/cappi5.jpg
http://www.umenno.com/cappi6.jpg
 

Pam Romjue
Weanling
Username: Pammysue

Post Number: 22
Registered: 03-2010
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kiara

I found an article that discusses prolonged pregnancies. It doesn't offer any suggestions, but does have some helpful information. If you are interested the link is. http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/horse-health/2006/January/25/Is-prolonged-pregn ancy-dangerous.aspx
 

Pam Romjue
Weanling
Username: Pammysue

Post Number: 23
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Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi again!

Here is some more information. I don't know if this is helping or not, but thought I'd share it.

The condition, uterine degeneration, usually occurs in older mares (greater than 12 years old) which have had several foals. It also can occur in older mares which were not bred for the first time until their mid- to late teens because they had an extensive show or racing career.

The mare is very different from other animals in that the placenta does not attach until late in the pregnancy, around 60 to 100 days. The pregnancy is maintained by the secretions of the uterine glands. Once the placenta attaches to the mare's uterus, the uterine glands begin a second role--ensuring that the microcotyledon (the placental/maternal attachment) receives nourishment.

If there is degeneration of the uterine glands, then the glands do not produce the correct quantity of "uterine milk" and the pregnancy suffers. The foal grows more slowly in utero, and therefore it takes more time for it to develop.

There is an old, wise saying about delivery: The foal picks the day it is to be born, and the mare picks the time. This is really true. If the foal is not completely developed, the pregnancy continues until the foal has finished developing. The whole article is at http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=2951
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 45
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Pam... my vet contacted Matt Henk at the Royal Dick Veterinary hospital in Edinburgh and he highly suspects that if indeed there was a case of placentitis that the foals development has more than likely slowed down however whilst she was treated for placentitis without a firm diagnosis as in vet did not measure the CPTU there remains the risk that their was another reason for impending abortion and thats what lies at the back on my mind and makes me worry so much. 391 days today
 

Holly
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Username: Bonny

Post Number: 2079
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Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, I can understand your concern. Are you still seeing foal movement? Whats her udder doing?
I wish you and her best wishes.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 46
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Holly :-) no haven't really seen foal movement for quite some time to be honest. at about 374 days the vet examined her, foal wasn't moving, he pushed down on the skull and then he said it had woken up and could feel movement. Her udder is more filled one side than the other but nothing of any significance and nothing like she was when this all started, more like a mare that has been weaned for a couple of weeks. She does have colustrum as its thick and yellow not milky at all. We have some loss of muscle tone which has been progressing over the last couple of days

Here are a few pics taken over the last few weeks..
http://www.umenno.com/capp2i.jpg
http://www.umenno.com/cappi1t.jpg
http://www.umenno.com/cappi3.jpg
http://www.umenno.com/cappi6.jpg
http://www.umenno.com/cappi7.jpg

(Message edited by solaris on June 04, 2010)

(Message edited by solaris on June 04, 2010)
 

Pam Romjue
Weanling
Username: Pammysue

Post Number: 33
Registered: 03-2010
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2010 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kiara

How are things today? Does she have milk or is it still clear liquid?

Hoping she foaled and you haven't had time to update us

Pam
 

Cheryl Mondry
Nursing Foal
Username: Cmondry

Post Number: 12
Registered: 05-2010
Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kiara - Any news? I hope all is well.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 47
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm still here and still no foal... but are is still doing well... the strain is quite unbearable, just so want closure...
 

kiara
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Username: Solaris

Post Number: 48
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

she has opaque milk quite watery, easy to extract, unlike the mare who has been waxed and dripping for about a week now, hers is very thick and clear and at 332 days.
Her bag is very small but very tight, the way a mare goes when she starts bagging. Her back end is looser than it has been but vulva remains the same. Not looking iminent anyway the way she did when it all first started.
 

Ad TB
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Username: Ajvtbs

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Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 05:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, my heart goes out to you, I'm thinking of you, still can't believe this is going on for so long and the worst thing is all you can do is wait
 

Holly
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Username: Bonny

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Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh Gosh Kiara, we are keeping you in our thoughts!
 

Ruby Halter
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Username: Rhalter

Post Number: 15
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Hope it's not too much longer, I did read about a mare that went 399 days - it was her first foal and she was 17 yrs old. The baby was fine - although a little small. Good Luck
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 49
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2010 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks everyone.. trying to stay light hearted about it all.. 403 days 15th June.

Ruby apparently there was also a mare reported on COTH at 420 days alive and well.. we can only wait and hope. She's looking fabulous though in really good form and that is the most important thing at the moment.
 

Pam Romjue
Weanling
Username: Pammysue

Post Number: 45
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2010 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you so much Kiara for the update!!!
 

Cheryl Mondry
Nursing Foal
Username: Cmondry

Post Number: 13
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Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kiara - Hang in their - my mare just went on Friday after about 365 +/- days...very nerveracking. Foal was born healthy but amazingly small. I hope all is well with you. It is good to hear that your mare is holding up well. I have my fingers crossed.
 

kiara
Weanling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 50
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks :-) We had another palomino mare foal at 363 days last year a huge colt.. but think this one will be very small the mare just isn't getting any bigger and she is not as big as any of the other mares at term but then she is a maiden and the others have foalie tums.
 

sally
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Username: Sally_c

Post Number: 160
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Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thinking of you Kiara, you must be shattered waiting for this one to arrive. Has she made any further progress?
 

kiara
Yearling
Username: Solaris

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Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

none Sally, for Scotland it's roasting here, hoping the heat might bring her on... 407 days...
 

Susan
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Username: Luv4mastiffs567

Post Number: 435
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

412 days and still no foal? I hope she's had it and you just haven't had time to post!! Please let us know whats going on. Were all getting worried!!! I'm sure your going nuts. I thought waiting 361 days was a nightmare last year but wow!!! I think you have us all beat.. Hope all is well.
 

Holly
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Username: Bonny

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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Susan I agree, I dont even know what to say other than happy foaling vibes?
I sure hope all is well Kiara.
 

kiara
Yearling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 52
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Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

she foaled a couple of hours ago! Twins..one the size of a rabbit not a pretty sight.. the live filly is seriously contracted in her hind limbs, not looking good... have given her oxitetraciclin (sp?) but she won't be able to nurse, have drenched her but think the kindest thing to do would be to let her go. This is such a hard call.

(Message edited by solaris on June 23, 2010)
 

Samantha
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Username: Dressage_diva333

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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara,

Are the tendons contracted, or the joints?
 

kiara
Yearling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 53
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wouldn't know the difference Samantha? Her limbs can be stretched into a pretty normal position but at the moment they are in a C shape and the vet doesn't have enough experience to be able to splint and apply Robert Jones bandaging correctly.. I knew about the oxytetracillin from past experience when a filly fractured her hock and started to contract in the weight bearing limb so asked him to start the treatment.

Its so hardwatch her, everything functioning normally,suction reflex, can sit up, has passed the meconium.. Im in two minds as to load her up and take her to the clinic and let them give me a diagnosis as if they say theres no hope then thats the decision made but have seen so much documented about abnormailties coming right.
 

sally
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Username: Sally_c

Post Number: 165
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, I would take her to a clinic cause as you said there is so much that they can do these days. Hopefully her hind legs can be put right, but at least then you will know. Goodluck i'll be thinking of you!
 

Ad TB
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Username: Ajvtbs

Post Number: 1056
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sorry to hear this Kiara, I'd a foal born with severly contracted front legs a few years ago, the vet casted him. The casts were removed and physio to stretch out the legs was done and then the casts were re-applied daily. He could not stand to suck either and to make matters worse he was also a dummy. He was in a vet hospital though with 24 hour care.
I've often used oxytetracycline on foals that have been very upright when they were born with good results. Good luck and keep us updated
 

Holly
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Username: Bonny

Post Number: 2120
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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh my Kiara. Hugs to you and your mare.
 

Susan
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Username: Luv4mastiffs567

Post Number: 437
Registered: 05-2008
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiarra, I'm so sorry to hear that about your foal. I know you will decide whats right for this little filly. your in my prayers.
 

kiara
Yearling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 54
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats encouraging to hear AdTb.
She is in the hospital now, vet has just called for an update. She is now standing when assisted, not terribly balanced but weight baring. The osifcation of her bones is a 3 on a scale of 4 so they are confident that they can allow her to bare weight. She is showing some signs of being a dummy too, red toungue flailing head at times,you'll know what I mean ADTB.So for the moment she is in intensive care, she is nursing really well, has good sucking reflex so drinking plenty, passing dung regularly so for the time being she still has a chance. Mum is being looked after too, washed out, antibiotics, swabs etc.. she is being a great mother to her little one, whickering to her, licking nudging etc
 

Pam Romjue
Yearling
Username: Pammysue

Post Number: 71
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That is so encouraging to hear Kiara! Thank you for keeping us updated! Sending all of you lots of prayers!!!
 

sally
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Username: Sally_c

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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So pleased that things are looking more positive for your filly, she's in the best place, my thoughts and prayers are with you !
 

Holly
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Username: Bonny

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Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kiara, sounding positive, hope she continues to improve!
 

kiara
Yearling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 55
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thank you everyone.. update.. vet very positive today, has been given plasma, has managed to get up on her own... has latched onto mum and had a HUGE drink... and on the provision that she continues to show good improvement she may be allowed to come home tomorow.. can't believe it... she truly is a miracle to have survived all of this!
 

Linda Bauer --
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Username: Llazyt

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Great to hear.
 

Brittany Hindes
Yearling
Username: Bhindes

Post Number: 91
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Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kiara,

I am glad she finally foaled for you. It sounds like she is making good progress and will be able to come home soon. Yeah. I can't wait to see some pics of this miracle baby.

Brittany
 

Susan
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Username: Luv4mastiffs567

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Kiara, I'm sooo relieved to hear that. I've been thinking about her all day. I to cant wait to see pics.
 

kiara
Yearling
Username: Solaris

Post Number: 56
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've posted some pics here:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Solaris-Sport-Horses/172503396747#!/photo.php?pid= 4477613&id=172503396747

The vets are confident she has passed the dummy stage, she is now getting up and nursing on her own, sometimes with encouragment.

Its possible that her left hind can now be splinted or cast. They are keeping her in over the weekend andwill re-evaluate on Monday but seems like she is doing ok. :-)
 

Cheryl Mondry
Weanling
Username: Cmondry

Post Number: 26
Registered: 05-2010
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She is beautiful. I hope things continue to go well with her.
 

sally
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Username: Sally_c

Post Number: 167
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She's a very pretty girl, glad she continues to improve and hope she will be home soon
 

Brittany Hindes
Yearling
Username: Bhindes

Post Number: 92
Registered: 08-2009
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a pretty girl you have there. I hope the progress continues and she has a good speedy recovery.
 

Pam Romjue
Yearling
Username: Pammysue

Post Number: 78
Registered: 03-2010
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She is so cute! What a miracle. So glad to hear everything seems to be going well!!! Please keep us updated and keep sending pictures!!!
 

Deb Anderson
Breeding Stock
Username: Bobs_mom

Post Number: 188
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She is precious - love her markings and color! good luck with her progress. Love to see new photos and updates
 

Marilyn Lemke
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Marilyn_l

Post Number: 2816
Registered: 06-2007
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gorgeous foal you have there! I'm happy to hear she's progressing so well!
 

Holly
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bonny

Post Number: 2130
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She is darling, best wishes for her:-)
 

Lori Coleman
Breeding Stock
Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 333
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So glad things are still hopeful for you...I just read through this thread beginning to end--quite remarkable, really. Best of luck to you!



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