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I just dont udnerstand this...

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Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 159
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had my vet come out the 1st week of January to preg check my mare. He palpated her and said that she was infoal and he thought she would foal in 3-4 weeks. Well that was a shock for me as we didnt breed her but later found out that my neighbor has a stud that had been loose and may have done the deed. Fast forward to this past few weeks mare still hadnt foaled but vet had said that he may have been off on the date and to just wait and keep watching her. Mare was in a foaling stall at night and in a small paddock during the day since the preg. was confirmed. This past weekend the mare looked like she had the hiccups so called the vet out. Different vet is on call and does a ultra sound and says the mare is open. This mare is getting a bigger udder over the past few days and more edema. At no time have I seen any sign of a fettus or cleanings. This realy puzzles me so I called the normal vet out yesterday and he palpates her again and says that she is now open. I asked about the fetus and was told that she must have reasobered it. I would think that if she was that clost to being full term that she wouldnt be able to do that. Shouldnt I see some thing?? This mare is still pushing her butt on the fence and stall walls and acting like she is still in foal. What do you make of this....
 

Dorthy Brown
Breeding Stock
Username: Dodib

Post Number: 331
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If she was that far along she would have expelled a pretty large foal and you should have seen some signs unless she had it and something else dragged it away(gross and sorry)
Is the first vet an equine vet? Maybe doesn't know what he is doing and she was actually open the first time he palptated her???
 

Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 160
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Both are equine vets. Vet said that when her palpated her that he felt feet.. There is now way it could have been dragged away....
 

Ad TB
Breeding Stock
Username: Ajvtbs

Post Number: 142
Registered: 01-2009
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is no way she could have absorbed the foal if she was estimated at only being a few weeks away from foaling. If she aborted you would have seen a pretty big foetus. All I can think of is that she wasn't in foal in the first incidence of palpation.
 

Jos
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 2301
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Absorbtion" (aka absorption, reabsorption, etc.) does not occur at any stage of pregnancy, never mind this late, so... someone is wrong~!
 

Amanda Gilbert
Breeding Stock
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 162
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well for giggles I went out and tried the nail test on her. It was going
up and down her spine very fast. Tried on the other mares nothing. So I
think that is interesting given that both vets said that she was open and
there was no fluid. What are your thoughts?? Here is a picture taken
today.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j179/Aagilbert/Picture078.jpg
 

Jane Whritenour
Yearling
Username: Quarterhorsetimestwo

Post Number: 92
Registered: 07-2008
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I had 3 vets tell me our mare was open - two did ultra sounds
at 30 days & 60. both told me she would be going into heat soon,
that was July & Aug. I had a blood test done: an estrogen sulphate test to rule out a phantom pregnancy. That was end of Sept. It can back positive 120-130 preg. Her udder continues to develop as we have about 8 weeks left So well see. I guess the best thing to do is watch. Oh my nail on a string test says its a filly!!
 

Samantha
Breeding Stock
Username: Dressage_diva333

Post Number: 498
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That nail test means nothing... just an old myth.

I'd say that she was actually open on the first ultrasound, she doesn't look pregnant really at all. The udder developing could be a hormonal thing. Why don't you have a blood test done? Then you would know for sure... Some mares do hide the foals, but a blood test would probably be your best bet.
 

Barbara Lewis
Weanling
Username: Baraka

Post Number: 22
Registered: 06-2008
Posted on Friday, March 27, 2009 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amanda, I'm curious about your mare at this point? Any progress? My mare, due to foal April 12, looks just about like your mare in the abdomen. There is no doubt that she is in foal. I assume she is carrying a small foal (her first) and carrying it high. No bag yet.
 

Kristen Lollo
Neonate
Username: Topazhorse

Post Number: 4
Registered: 04-2009
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a mare last year that definitely had a phantom pregnancy, her paddock buddy delivered a faol and she went through every stage with her and was even producing milk but no foal,



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