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Missing foal?

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TB (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a maiden paint mare that was pregnant, looked pregnant and we even saw movement of the foal up until a few weeks before due date, she never bagged up but had swelling in front of udders; on day 353 we took her to vet who said she wasn't pregnant and had either absorbed or slipped the foal; we keep a very close eye on our broodmares and she never showed any sign of being close to delivery or any sign of actual foaling; we stall our horses up at night; having a hard time trying to determine what happened; she has dropped over 100 lbs in past couple of weeks; vet says she's ready to re-breed; any ideas?
 

Rooty (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

False pregnancy? Are you beyond the shade of a doubt sure that you saw movement? I have heard that if they reabsorb after 60 days they can have a false pregnancy.
 

Sandra K. Kidder
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Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,
This was 7 years ago. I had a friend that checked her mare at 6am nothing,at 7am the mare definately had had the foal. It could not be found anywhere. Finally out under the back corral lower boards something was stuck. It was the foal. It had been carried off by a preditor. Bobcat? coyotes? It was still alive but his hindquarters where massively torn up. He is now 17.3 and now one of the most awesome horses I have ever seen. He is an Oldenburg and is a dressage horse. This happened in Michigan.
 

Kim k
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thankgoodness we have never had anything like that happen. Although we would really like to have the mares foal outside, we do our best to make sure that they foal inside, just due to the fact that we know that there are coyotes and bobcat in our area. The barn gets closed up at night as well during foaling season. The after birth gets put into a grainsack and put in the dumpster for trash collection. We don't put afterbirth in the manure pile just because we don't want preditors getting to close to the barnyard for the smell of it. All Mares and babys get put in the barn for the night for a good few months. It is not until later in the summer that they may stay out at night if it gets really hot. We then sometimes reverse out pattern, in the barn (we have a big bank barn that stays cool in the daytime) during the day and out and night. It is not until it gets very humid out that they stay out all the time--at that time the barn just is too hot full of horses.

Sandra we live in Northern Indiana ! :-)
Kim
 

Jos
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Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apparent movement of the foal is one of the most common errors made for an alleged determination of pregnancy! The mare's gut will move amazingly and one can convince oneself that what you are seeing is in fact a foal!

If the vet was experienced and performed a rectal palpation, there should be no way that a term foal could be missed.

Some mares may go all the way through pregnancy with a false pregnancy, although it is rare. A false pregnancy certainly can occur with a mare that loses the pregnancy after about day 35, and she will typically not return to estrus (heat) until about 120-150 days after the breeding took place. It is rare that a false pregnancy is "maintained" beyond that, but not unheard of.
 

Rooty (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, we had a mare that maintained a full false pregnancy once. She never got quite as big as if she'd been really pregnant, but she looked like she was about 6-7 months along!



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