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Abdominal Ultrasound?

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Em Taylor
Neonate
Username: Dressagegurl

Post Number: 2
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was wondering if anyone has done one with with a broodmare late term?She is at 250 days.
We are going to UC Davis on Thurs. to do one and I am wondering what experience others have had with them. The specialist said that its a 95% chance we will see what we need to.We are taking her in to check for twins, mummified fetus, or other problems. Mare hasn't been acting right for about 2 weeks, the whole story is much longer, she hasn't been "right" for a while but its gotten bad in the last 2 weeks. All vets involved feel this is the best approach.
Please keep your fingers crossed that all is well, she is such a wonderful and sweet girl...
 

Mood Swings
Nursing Foal
Username: Mood_swings

Post Number: 11
Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Em - good luck to you and your mare. Keep us posted. My fingers are crossed!
 

Lori Coleman
Yearling
Username: Editorlady

Post Number: 66
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good luck Em. I had my mare ultrasounded at around 150 days because she seemed so big, and the repro vet was able to determine that she wasn't carrying twins. But that's quite a bit earlier than 250.
 

sonya walker
Yearling
Username: Reklaww

Post Number: 53
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Em , Thoughts and prayer go with you, good luck.
Let us know:-)
 

Charlotte
Nursing Foal
Username: Flybynite

Post Number: 17
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did a rectal u/s at 295 days to check placental thickness & for signs of infection. Baby was trying to kick the vets arm but it didnt bother the mare at all.

Charlotte
 

Joanie Davison
Weanling
Username: Joanied

Post Number: 29
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Charlotte,
I haven't been following these posts, but glad I did read thru them just now...I have a TB mare at 275 days and she's been bagged up for a month...my vet did a check on a milk sample and said she had mastitis (she also had an edema that is almost gone now). Toy Moon has had several foals and this has never happened before.
Of course, I am horrified about this...she's my only preggie mare for this year, and I love her...anyway, the mastitis is cleared up. Her vulva looks normal, this has been going on now for about a month, when milked out for samples, her milk is now the color of milk (not clear, yellow ect) and she drips, waxes, drips, waxes...my vet is affraid he may have missed twins via her early u/s last year.
We treated her with sulfa pills & banamine but she isn't on any meds now at all.
I want him to do a rectal palpate on her, but he said it may trigger labor, so won't do it. He is not set up for an intra rectal u/s, so palpation is the only way we can go.
You said your mare did fine with it at 295 days...do you think I should insist on him palpating her rectally? I need to know what is going on in there...maybe something wrong with her placenta?
What's your advice?
Jo...maybe you can chime in here also...what would you do?
THANKS
 

Charlotte
Nursing Foal
Username: Flybynite

Post Number: 18
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not sure what use palpation would be, with ultrasound you physically measure the thickness of the placenta in cm and can look for signs of separation & infection. My mare is a TB and was very underweight at the start of the pregnancy. her conformation improved with feed, so I chose to leave her un-caslicked and do follow up ultrasounds instead. I know many horses that have had ultrasounds or palpations in the final month and never heard of side affects. YMMV, but I think if I were in your shoes, I'd want to know exactly what was going on in there and that means an ultra sound.
Good luck with your mare, Charlotte
 

Joanie Davison
Weanling
Username: Joanied

Post Number: 37
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, I do need to know what's going on inside my mare...I also realize just to palpate her won't tell me anything except wether or not the foal is alive. That would be something.
My vet doesn't have an u/s machine that does rectal u/s, so what am I to do?
I live in a very rural area of Wyoming and we just don't have vets and/or facilities around here like most folks have in other area's...
I am now going to talk to my vet about him getting what he'd need to do a rectal u/s...
I don't know what else to do.
Thanks, Charlotte...I think I need all the 'luck' I can find....I'll keep you all posted.
 

Charlotte
Nursing Foal
Username: Flybynite

Post Number: 19
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joanie,
If this were my mare, I'd assume the worst and keep her on antibiotics that cross the placenta (SMZs for instance) for the duration of the pregnancy. I'm not a fan of willy-nilly antibiotic use but from reading your other thread I think you have enough suspicion to go on. My vet has had a lot of problems with drafts that repeatedly abort at 9 months, he spoke with the guys at Rood & Riddle and they suggested 10 days of SMZs a month (so say the first 10 days of the month) for the duration of the pregnancy. This is the first year the drafts are all past the 9 months and heading to term. If she does have placentitis you are at higher risk of red bag delivery too, but attending the birth can help with that. Also, if its placentitis, the baby has been exposed to pathogens in the uterus and antibiotics at birth might be considered to prevent septicemia. After foaling a culture & cytology with sensitivity tests can help you prepare her for rebreeding. Is she stalled and under lights? That seems to take off 10-14 days and when you're counting days, every little helps Goodluck, Charlotte
 

Joanie Davison
Weanling
Username: Joanied

Post Number: 39
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Charlotte,
Thanks so much...I mentioned going back on sulfa pills and vet said no...don't want to give her anything she may not need...as for me, I could not see the harm in going the SMZ route again...so, what I'll do is just tell him that's what I WANT to do...we're coming up on the 1st of March and she had her only 10 days on sulfa starting the 1st of Feb...so that should work out pretty good. Her poops get very loose, but guess we can live with that.
I pray, when the time comes, I don't see a Red Bag...but will sure have myself prepared for it, and thankfully, my vet is close by. If she delivers a live baby, I already plan on the necessary tests for it...as for Toy Moon and rebreeding...I don't think I will get her bred again, Cathy...she's had enough and besides this pregnancy problem she has developed arthritis in her hocks, so I don't want to burden her with another pregnancy.
She's not stalled or under lights...all I have is a run in shed that I convert to a foaling stall every year...and we don't have electricity out there, I am running my barn camera from our shop and can't use anymore ext. cords...I said this is rural Wy and I ain't kidding!!
Thanks so much for your help...you can't know how much I appreciate it!!
If you are curious about my mares ect, visit my web site and enjoy!!
www.foolishdreamfarm.com
Thanks again.
 

Em Taylor
Neonate
Username: Dressagegurl

Post Number: 9
Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry it took me to long to reply here, my girl ended up being fine.. just a very active foal!



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