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Can you AI a mare with a caslick still in? JOS Help

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Jan H
Breeding Stock
Username: Jan_h

Post Number: 335
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, June 09, 2006 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi I had my mare taken to the breeding farm in February 05, after being there for 3 months they called and said she was in foal and to pick her up, when I saw her I questioned how they did AI on her when it is obvious that her caslicks had not been opened, they said they do it with a long tube and it is not needed to open a caslicks for the procedure, so I waited for a year, giving the prefoaling shots at the right times. at 10 months she did not show at all (she was a maiden) so I had the vet out to palpate her and she was open. This year I again tried to breeed this mare I had her caslicks opened and had her inseminated, the semen which arrived had only a 40% motility rate, this stallion only managed to get 37% of his mares in foal 80% were bred with fresh semen at the farm. she did not take after two different inseminations. I am wondering if I should even take a chance to breed to this stallion after two years lost due to his poorly performing semen/sperm.
My question is, can a mare actually conceive by performing AI without opening the caslicks? Before it was opened you could only manage to insert two fingers in.
 

Amanda Gilbert
Weanling
Username: Amanda

Post Number: 48
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jan my vet just breed a mare here that still had caslicks in and she settled. but it was a woman vet with very small arms. other wise she said she would have to take them out.
 

Lindros
Nursing Foal
Username: Lindros

Post Number: 19
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, it depends on how far down the mare is stitched.
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Jos

Post Number: 10766
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As noted above, the size of the inseminator's hans and how far down the Caslick's procedure goes will make a dfference. From what you describe however, it sounds as though they inseminated through a vaginal speculum, which means that the opening doesn not have to be large enough to allow passage of the hand, only the speculum - which is unde 2" in diameter.

40% progressive motility is perfectly OK as long as there are a sufficient number of sperm. In fact, if a "standard" dose of 1 billion sperm were shipped, arriving with a 40% progressive motility rate, I would be very happy.
 

Jan H
Breeding Stock
Username: Jan_h

Post Number: 339
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks 1 billion sperm were shipped, however that 40% motility was what was shipped, what we received was less than 25% motility, would that make a differance?
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10771
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Assuming that the mare ovulated within a reasonable time post-insemination (ideally within 12 hours) - which is what one wants regardless of the sperm numbers - I wouldn't have too much of a concern unless the inseminated numbers were below 100 million PMS.

Don't start to play the "what are the chances she is pregnant" game with your mind - you'll drive yourself crazy. Just sit back and wait - there's nothing more you can do right now anyway. :-)
 

Jan H
Breeding Stock
Username: Jan_h

Post Number: 340
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I understand thanks Jos and others for your comments, I guess we will try again next year and then start earlier so we can have more then two attempts at getting her in foal from this stallion. I appreciate your help!



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