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Please help! I HAVE to get this mare pg next year!!

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Lianne P.
Neonate
Username: Asbjumper

Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jos, I hope you read this...
I have a perfectly fit and healthy 10-yr old mare. She was bred in 2003, caught on the first try, needed no special treatments or drugs, and had an uneventful pregnancy and popped out a lovely healthy filly on Day 331.

Fast-forward to summer of 2005 - she is cultured (negative) and bred AI again on a 52 mm follicle, vet comes back to check her at 48 hrs post-breeding, she had ovulated and everything looked PERFECT. She is checked in foal at 17 days, checked again at 45 days and the baby has a heartbeat, again, no fluid, big CL, everything is still great.

Then she is checked at Day 65 and nothing... vet says she reabsorbed, she thinks she can see the remnants of the vesicle but no fetus. Vet is stumped - there is still a nice big CL present and everything looks great - but no baby.
Mare is still fit and happy, has not been sick or stressed or anything...

I am getting tons of different opinions as to how to manage this mare when I re-breed next year. It will be my last attempt before the LFG expires. I want to know how to mange this mare next spring - Regumate? Oxytocin? Leave her alone...?? What? Help!

(Message edited by ASB-Jumper on October 04, 2005)

(Message edited by ASB-Jumper on October 04, 2005)
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10324
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kathy has answered this admirably where you posted it on the CotH Board.

One thing I will add is that before doing anything invasive before breeding again, I would make absolutely sure that the mare is not pregnant! While a pregnancy really shouldn't be missed at 65 days, I do know of incidences where it has been... :-(

The other point that I would comment on is that the presence of a CL is perfectly normal at that stage of pregnancy or pregnancy loss. After the endometrial cups grow in around day 35 of pregnancy, there are typically multiple follicles developing on the ovaries that will either ovulate or luteinize (become CL's without ovulating), and this will continue through to around 120-150 days after the initial ovulation that resulted in the pregnancy. In the event that the mare loses the pregnancy after the formation of the endometrial cups, she will still think she is pregnant even though she isn't, and will continue to produce follicles/CL's and not show estrus ("heat") until they resolve after that 120-150 day mark.
 

Lianne P.
Neonate
Username: Asbjumper

Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you so much, Jos. I do indeed plan to have her palpated in the spring before I do anything in regards to breeding her. :-)

You guys are GREAT!
 

Joanie Davison
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Username: Joanied

Post Number: 7
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Lianne P,

I couldn't find the post where your problem was addressed (cotH Board) but I wonder if anyone has suggested you have your mare's hormone levels checked?
especially since she is getting up in age, it might be a good idea.
I know you are having her cultured and have the vet check her for bredding soundness and all that stuff, but if her hormones aren't right, she'll be hard to settle and/or she'll resorb.

I have a problem mare and when we checked her hormone levels found out she needed some help to maintian her pregnancy (she'd get in foal, but would not maintain)...
right after she was bred (last year)we styarted her on generic progesterone (you don't have to use Regumate, it's way expensive)...I gave it to her orally with a syringe...5cc's every five days for 2 wks. Then 3cc every five days ( you give the does ON the 5th day) until she went into her 4th month...then I began weaning her off the progresterone...1cc less, every 5th day until the last does was 1cc.

She has maintianied her pregnancy and is now going into her 8th month.

I wish you best of luck this breeding season...I know what it's like when you jjst HAVE to get a mare in foal!!

Hope I was some help.
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10464
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For what it's worth, all the research indicates that progesterone cannot be absorbed by the equine gut :-) "Regumate" (altrenogest) is not progesterone, but a synthetic progestin, which is absorbable.

Not to shoot you down completely Joanie (sorry!!), but before jumping on the "Regumate wagon" I always encourage everyone to review our article about Regumate [over]use first... :-)



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