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Give up breeding this mare?

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Anonymous
Posted From: 12.64.216.97
Posted on Monday, September 15, 2003 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've got a 1986 TB mare that has had 7 foals. She had foals in 2001 and 2002 and then I didn't breed her for 2003. I put her under lights last winter and sent her to a breeding farm in January. Their vet specializes in equine reproduction. This mare was dirty the whole time which started out as yeast then went to b. strep, e. coli, and then yeast again. They did numerous cultures, cytologies, uterine flushes, treatments, oxytoxin, infusions. So now she is home and my vet did a biopsy and she is 2 (out of 4) and he says the biopsy shows good except for surface inflamation that he wants to treat her. After treating her for almost 6 months already, am I just wasting my time and money continuing?
 

b
Posted From: 66.20.101.75
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I wouldn't really say that you are wasting your time and money. If the yeast has happened at the breeding farm? then I wouldn't send the mare to that breeding farm again. Before you sent her did you have a Negative Coggins test or did this happen at the farm? You can email me at

dakotaandbutch@bellsouth.net

and we can discuss this more.
 

Jos
Posted From: 165.121.167.220
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not sure what the negative Coggins has to do with it, although a negative Coggins is always a good idea when horses are meeting. For those who are not aware, a Coggins test evaluates the horse's carrier state for a disease called Equine Infactious Anemia (EIA) - also known as swamp fever. It is not a disease that is associated with a uterine breeding problem!!

Uterine yeast and fungal infections can be notoriously difficult to dislodge, so it is possible that the problem is genuine. If you are uncomfortable with the apparent expense of the previous veterinarian, perhpas use another and see if there is any difference in the diagnostics.

The biopsy result you have been given is a little vague... the usual scoring system is known as the New Kenney Biopsy Scoring system and comprises of grades I; IIa; IIb; and III. The score relates pretty accurately to the % chances of achieving a live foal, so I would ask for more details on that.

It is difficult to comment beyond that, as the information you've got seems pretty "scratchy"! I might be inclined to look for a second opnion though if it can be done easily.
 

b
Posted From: 66.20.100.97
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I sorta agree with you (jos). Negative coggins test may not have anything to do with it. Can you help me with something also? I am sorta new to breeding with AI. How often should I collect my stallion? He is 2 years old and I also have a 4 year old pony stallion. They are both ponies though. Thanks
 

Jos
Posted From: 165.121.193.76
Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The number of times that it is acceptable to breed a young stallion will to a large extent be stallion-dependent. If the stallion has good libido, then the generally accepted number for a youngster of 3 to breed is around 10 mares. As this figure is using live cover, we can assume and average of 3 covers per mare, so about 30 covers/collections total. I have to stress though that it is stallion dependent, so if you pull your stallion out to collect after only half that number and he rolls his eyes at you and says "Oh no, not that again..." - quit for the season!!! :-)

There are stallions that were overbred as 2 and 3 year-olds that would not breed a mare the following year...

And then there are others that bred or were collected many more times that the above suggested 30...
 

b
Posted From: 66.20.100.223
Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks



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