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What do you know about windsucking/caslicks?

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Trisha (209.245.101.30)
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi there. I am just looking for a little knowledge on windsucking. I have an 18 y.o. TB who lost early (2-3 months). What I just realized is that she is very flatulent when she is being ridden. She has been noted by my vet as being somewhat "tipped" back there, and thus at risk for "windsucking". Could this be the cause of her flatulent nature? Also, she remained at the stud's farm for 6 weeks after breeding, through 2 verification ultrasounds, and then came home. She looked great at 5.5 weeks, but by the 3 month Rhino shot it was gone. She had showed aheat cycle the week prior to the vet's visit. I did one of those pregnancy tests, and it was positive, so I know she had at least started to form endometrial cups and ECG. The vet thoroughly checked her out, and said everything looked good, tone, biopsy, re-sorption of fluid, etc. My vet had recommended a caslick's, but the vet at the stud farm didn't think it was necessary. Could this be one of the factors that led to early abortion? When she came home she went back under saddle. She does very little jumping, mostly walk/trot dressage, some canter.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Trisha
 

Anonymous (209.240.222.131)
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is very possible that she lost the foal because of her conformation back there allowing fecal matter to get in & contaminate her uterus. It is also possible that what you're hearing when you ride her isn't flatulence at all but her windsucking. I asked my vet about windsucking because my mare had an infection & I was wondering if that could have been the cause. He said that when they have the windsucking conformation you can hear them when they run through the field. Probably a lot like flatulence. I definately would get another opinion as to whether a caslick should be performed
 

Trisha (209.245.105.84)
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2002 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought it was kind of odd, because my vet had recommended it, but the other vet didn't think she needed it, said she was tipped, but not enough to warrant a caslicks. Now I know 5 vets can look at the same mare and see 5 different things, but I have to wonder if I had caslicked her, would her chances of carrying have been improved.
 

Anonymous (209.240.222.131)
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I sure am no expert but I'd say her chances would have been improved. You can look at her & pretty much tell if she has the correct conformation there. Is her anus sunk in? Are the lips of her vulva coming together to form a seal? If the answer is yes & no chances are she may need a caslick.
 

Trisha (209.245.98.5)
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I guess now I need to decide if it is worth trying again. Everyone at the barn says I need to give her more of a chance than I have, and certainly if she gets bred again she will be stiched. It was hard losing the first baby though. I am very attached to this mare. She is 19 (in April) and hasn't taken an off step in her life, great mover, great confirmation. She has a lot to offer as a broodmare. It makes it harder for her to lose it though because I want her baby so badly. Thanks for the advice, I suppose it is what I already knew, but I needed to hear it from someone else.
 

Anonymous (209.240.222.131)
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glad I could help but you really should discuss it with your vet again. I know what it is to REALLY want a foal from a certain mare. I have a mare that has had 4 foals she is purebred but wasn't bloodtyped so I was finally able to get her bloodtyped & wanted to breed her to a purebred stud. She had 4 foals fine & with this breeding developed an infection or I believe already had one, now I'm concerned that I may have trouble or possibly not be able to get her in foal again. It can be frustrating. Good Luck!
 

Trisha (4.19.195.132)
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2002 - 05:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Were you breeding live cover? That is always tricky because the best of management still leaves room for error. I think there are only a few types of bacteria (Klebsiella is coming to mind) that are difficult to clear up though. Were her four foals recent? Is she older and tipped? I guess this tipped anatomy can come with age, and makes them more susceptible to infection. Abby has been clean thus far. I have to have her cultured again this year before breeding. Here's hoping! I wouldn't get discouraged yet with your mare. This infection may clear right up, and she could carry perfectly with the next breeding. My vet just keeps telling me you have to be persistent with the older mares. So keep going, and good luck.
 

Anonymous (209.240.222.131)
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2002 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She had a strep infection & was treated for it I just hope it hasn't came back. No she's not tipped my vet says she has good conformation back there. I think she picked it up when she foaled the last time this spring. She's only 12 so I'm hoping to get a couple more foals from her.
 

Trisha (65.56.12.235)
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2002 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds pretty positive. Good luck!



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