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In foal or not??

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Della Boscana (66.109.70.67)
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare was bred on June 18 (live cover). We teased at 15-20 days and no response. At 45 days we ultra-sounded...no foal. The vet said to check again if she had not come back in season which she hasn't. This mare is an extremely easy keeper (1 cup grain twice a day) but I have tripled her grain and she is just maintaining weight. Also her attitude to the other horses (geldings in particular) is really nasty. Should I have her ultrasounded again now or wait to see if she comes back in after 120 days?
 

Kelly (63.172.47.223)
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Della- A 45 day pregnancy would be very apparent. I would seriuosly doubt that she was in foal. I am also a bit concerned with the vets suggestions. What other information did he give you? If he had no other information to give you, I would call another vet and have her ultrasounded once again a.s.a.p. There could be a number of things going on and you should have been apprised of them.
 

Della Boscana (66.109.70.67)
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

She said that most likely the mare was pregnant around 30 days and then absorbed the foal and that
she could take awhile to cycle back. She also made the comment that she was starting to doubt her ultra-sound machine. The breeder did say that he had a mare last year that was ultra-sounded at 45
and shown not in foal and then later was re-tested
and was in foal.
 

Kelly (63.172.47.180)
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would not expect for a 45 day pregnancy to be missed. Even if the machine was not working, a competent vet could determine a pregnancy by palpation at 45 days. If in fact this has happened to two mares that were that far along, I would change vets.

At this late time of the year, your mare may not cycle back. You may continue to tease her, but I would suggest an early start next year. I would also suggest that she be cultured before breeding as there may be a reason she did not conceieve, or did, and aborted. Good luck!
 

Kelly (63.172.47.180)
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Della, me again - I would make sure that I had a breeding contract in hand that insured a live foal. You should be able to breed back again next year. Oral agreements can be a sorce of problems when re breeding is necessary.
 

Della Boscana (66.109.70.67)
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The two mares were seen by different vets. Neither vet is a reproductive specialist. Hard to find one in our area.

My mare is a maiden mare and was cultured before she was bred and everything was fine. The breeding was by live cover to a stallion with an excellent track record. We do have a live foal guarantee so breeding back is no problem.
 

Kelly (63.172.47.211)
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like you have everything in order. Keep an eye on her for signs of heat. After 50-60 days, it is hard to get a pregnancy of that size on an ultrasound screen. She will have to be palpated if you suspect that she is still in foal.
 

Della (66.109.70.67)
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had my mare palpated last night at ~120 days. She is definitely in foal. The vet said that she is only one among seven of her clients that bred this year. Everyone keep your fingers crossed that she carries it to term (first foal).
 

Kelly (63.172.47.215)
Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Congratulations!



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