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Crypt Gelding or normal?

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Renae Brumley
Neonate
Username: Renaecd

Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A woman at my barn recently told me that when she got her gelding, he started to try to cover her mares and had all of the normal stallion behaviors. By some method (not sure exactly how), they discovered that he had been a cryptorchid stallion and someone did not take the time to go in after the second testicle. So technically he was still a stallion!

Well I have a QH/mustang gelding who is almost 5 years old. The mares are starting to come into heat here, and he has been doing everything but mounting them. They are always separated, so I don't know whether he would mount or not! The mares will display to him and he will get "excited" and do the flehmens response a few times, then prance back and forth in his run and rear slightly (just enough that his front feet are about a foot off the ground). Today he was repeatedly and continuouly going from pile to pile squatting over some of the mare's manure when I let him out in our round pen. I didn't know if this was normal for some geldings (I know they can still smell the phermones, just don't know how the phermones register with geldings!)or if I should consider what happened with that other gelding at my barn that I mentioned. If this is abnormal, how do I go about finding out if he was carelessy left a crypt? Thanks for any thoughts!

(Message edited by RenaeCD on February 05, 2006)
 

Heather Kutyba
Weanling
Username: Heatherck11

Post Number: 38
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a blood test your vet can have done that will determine if he is gelded or not. I can find out exactly which one it is tomorrow, if you like.
My understanding, is that it measures the level of testosterone. For obvious reasons, an intact male will have much higher levels than a gelding.
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10444
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some geldings will breed mares. It's one of the disadvantages of keeping a gelding in with your mares. Chances are that what you are seeing is perfectly normal (in some) gelding behaviour.

You can have your vet run a base-line hCG test, wherein blood is drawn from the gelding, then hCH given (which will stimulate testosterone production if there is testicular tissue present) and another blood sample taken to see if there is an increase in the testosterone level.
 

angel humphries
Neonate
Username: Angel_humphries

Post Number: 3
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi. Earlier today my husband and I were outside and saw our neighbors 15-month old colt mounting a mare and actually breeding her. This colt was gelded back in the fall, but when the vet gelded him he explained that one of the testicles was much smaller than the other (he explained it to be the size of the tip of his pinky finger)but that was all he said. Today this gelding was actually breeding this mare and when he came off of the mare there was ejaculate coming from him and he looked like studs do after they breed a mare. This mare is definitely in heat, as they had bred the mare to their stud yesterday. Is there anyway that this colt is not completely gelded? We have placed a call to our vet and have separated the mare from the colt. Thanks,
Angel
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10607
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One cannot say for sure if he was completely gelded without examination and/or hormone evaluation.

It is worth noting that geldings can and will breed mares, so even if he is gelded correctly, he still may obtain an erection, mount, and complete intromission and ejaculation. There just won't be any sperm present. It's one of the drawbacks of keeping [some] geldings in with mares, as it increases the risk of infection and injury.



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