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Colt breeding but he's got nothing! question

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Jenni Luttrell
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 1044
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was given a mini horse who was refered to simply as he at first ?I thought gelding but 15 min after getting him home and watching his behavior I said stallion. So I pulled him out of the big pasture and into a seperate pen. Tied him up and felt around back there I can not feel any teste at all so I decided proud cut. But here is my delema he was tearing up my gate wanting a friend so I put a mini mare who'd been teasing him in with him. It took all of 3 min for him to mount her and do his thing I did see some semen drip off when he dismounted. He is some where between 3-5 yrs old im thinking more like late 4 early 5. I do not have any information on the horse he was given to my dad (who gave him to me) bc the couple is getting a divorse.
my question is is it possible he's fertile?
 

Diana Gilger
Breeding Stock
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 685
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not only possible, but probable. If he's not dropped (which is probably the reason he was gotten rid of) It is a very expensive surgery. Retained testicles are non fertile, but stallion behavior is MULTIPLIED! You won't have to worry about your mares getting prego, but he'll forever harass them. I'd get him checked by someone who can ultrasound him and tell where his testicles are. If he's abdominal, you're looking at about $800 spent on a free horse to geld....
 

Jos
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Username: Admin

Post Number: 2107
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Geldings can and will breed mares. It is therefore quite possible that he is gelded, but simply still breeding mares. Discuss with your veterinarian having a hormonal analysis to determine if there is testosterone present - that will give you a definitive answer.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 1051
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just to be sure im clear can he be gelded and still ejaculate?
 

Diana Gilger
Breeding Stock
Username: Kdgilger

Post Number: 686
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jenni, that part I know NOTHING about....good thing we've got JOS! I have never seen a gelding mount (and finish) so I don't know...
 

Jenni Luttrell
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Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 1054
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2008 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ive seen geldings get stiff and give it a go but never get the "job" done he was dripping when he pulled out so he did something. I hope Jos will clarify as I really dont know but I am not spending any more money on this stink pot. He is not child safe at all; he would make a great cart horse or trick pony as hes really smart so as soon as his neck heals (he took a chunk out of a 1200lb gelding) he is for sale. Thanks for the help
 

Jos
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Post Number: 2109
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Posted on Monday, July 28, 2008 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, a gelding can still ejaculate, although it will be seminal plasma and other secondary sex gland secretions. When a castration takes place, the testicles are removed - the source of sperm - but the secondary sex glands - which are internal and secrete seminal plasma and gel - remain.

Note that while mounting, erection and intrommission are not that unusual in a gelding, full ejaculation is less common. If you have any concerns therefore you would do well to have the horse examined by a veterinarian well-versed in stallions. If there is an abdominally retained testicle it would not be fertile, but does predispose the horse to a higher risk of testicular cancer. If inguinally retained, there is a possibility of fertility.
 

Jenni Luttrell
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: Bugrace2000

Post Number: 1055
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2008 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok thanks Jo's



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