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6 month pregnant mare with discharge

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Michele
Nursing Foal
Username: Mich

Post Number: 11
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Jos, I have a very-important-to-me 22yr old preg QH x Appaloosa mare who is due mid-November. Had two foals, 1st 13 yrs ago, 2nd two years ago and now this pregnancy. Perfect vulva conformation, no windsucking, no slanting at all and closed.
+- 5 days ago she started with a slight discharge, pale pink in colour. Normal temp, and discharge not pirulent, but eyes half shut and didn't look 'happy'. Upon consultation with the vet, I put her on Tucoprim 40% poweder ab (sulphadiazine / trimethoprim) (same as Purbac). The second day the discharge was quite dark browny-red. Today is the 3rd day of the ab's. Last night it looks like she had a bit more discharge than before with little bit fresh blood in it which I could see on her tail and her quarters this am.
However, this afternoon when I gave her the ab's, I couldn't see any sign of fresh discharge at all. Vulva seemed dry. I'm really concerned that she could''ve aborted. Can you shed any light on why a usually very healthy mare without a history would suddenly develop a discharge, whether it's common and what should I do?!! Many, many thanks in advance.
 

Michele
Nursing Foal
Username: Mich

Post Number: 12
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forgot to add that vet recommended Regumate 1 x daily dose of 5mls in feed. Is this good idea /correct / necessary? Tks.
 

Rousseau
Weanling
Username: Epona5

Post Number: 37
Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well, I would check the pregnancy first, because if she has aborted or is going to, then the regumate is completely unneccessary, except if you have too much money !
have her evaluated by ultrasound fot pregnancy, foal vitality and placentitis.
 

Jos
Board Administrator
Username: Jos

Post Number: 10768
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It may be placentitis as mentioned above. To add more detail - your veterinarian should be able to ultrasound the mare's combined thickness of the uterus and placenta ("CTUP") and if overly thick for the stage of pregnancy it indicates placentitis. Confirmation that the fetus is still alive should also be achieved before treatment is initiated. Treatment includes use of the antibiotocs you mention; Regumate (as mentioned) and use of a prostaglandin-release inhibiting drug such as Flunixin meglumine ("Banamine").
 

Michele
Nursing Foal
Username: Mich

Post Number: 13
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, will do so!
 

Michele
Nursing Foal
Username: Mich

Post Number: 14
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 03:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Went to check on her this am,and found the aborted foetus with placenta. Perfectly formed filly. Am in a state of shock and disbelief. The umbilicus was twisted / rolled from top to bottom don't know if that is the cause. Am taking her to vet to try and ascertain why this happened. Totally devastated.
 

Lori aka " Raven"
Breeding Stock
Username: Raven

Post Number: 399
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 04:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sorry for your lose.
 

Jos
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Username: Jos

Post Number: 10769
Registered: 10-1999
Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is perfectly normal for the umbilicus to be twisted/rolled as you describe. It is only if there is a single clearly defined twist (that is greater than "regular" twisting the whole length) with distinct bruising - more on the fetal side than the placental side - that one would suspect a twisted umbilicus as the cause of fetal dealt/abortion. Remember that the umbilicus is the main blood supply to the placenta and back, so if there's enough of a twist to stop that blood flow, you're going to see tremendous bruising present.

Make sure you take not only the fetus, but also the placenta and fetal membranes for evaluation. The placenta will tell the vet/path lab a lot - possibly more than the fetus itself. If your vet does not see anything specific, it may well still be worth sending everything to a path lab for a more in-depth necropsy. If you can't get everything to your vet today, make sure you refrigerate the samples.



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