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Mare lame after pneumobort vaccine

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Jennifer Shedosky
Neonate
Username: Jens

Post Number: 1
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare received a pneumobort vaccine at 5 months along in February, she had a reaction to the vaccine, that included fairly severe soreness, especially in front feet. It went away after about a week. Then about a month later, she seemed sore again. I had her feet trimmed as she was a bit long, no help. The vet came out, was stumped - but called it "pregnancy founder". I've since had her trimmed again & the farrier said he saw no signs of founder. So she has been on bute on & off since. It helps, but I've been trying to wean her off - but to no avail - recently she has gotten a bit worse - so vet's coming out to x-ray tomorrow. Anyone have any issues like this? There really is no other reason for her to founder - no diet changes etc... Any pain management hints? Another vet told me to try MSM for pain management instead of bute.

(Message edited by jens on May 10, 2006)
 

Jan Owen
Weanling
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 46
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,

When my mare was in the last month of pregnancy she became "lame". I was constantly calling the vet and he came out repeatedly to check her. She was constantly ridden up till her last month so she was in very good physical shape. The added weight of the pregnancy and the fact that we pulled her shoes was what we collectively decided caused her lamness. This past pregnancy we left her shoes on and continued to pony her out when she was one month from due date and she did great.
I know how distressing it is to have something like this going on with your mare. I hope it resolves itself quickly.
 

Jennifer S
Neonate
Username: Jens

Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jan,

This mare has been on/off again lame since February. Mostly on, unless on bute. I bought her last May just 2 weeks before she had her first foal. I have not ridden her at all as I had her bred back right away & she may or may not be broke to ride. I guessed barely, if at all, (even though the sellers said she had just been to a trainer & had 60 days in), by the way she responded to basic handling. I have taken judicious steps to make sure she gets exercise though, because she can be a quite lazy girl. I'm really praying that this clears after foaling, & that the excess weight is keeping it irritated.
 

Jennifer S
Neonate
Username: Jens

Post Number: 8
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Argh. xray shows a significant but not severe rotatation. Making some changes in diet. She is a heavy necked horse.
 

Jan Owen
Weanling
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 49
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer,
I am sorry that the diagnosis was a rotation. I guess the good side is that now you know what it is and can proceed to take care of it. I hope the diet changes make a difference! Good Luck!
 

Jennifer S
Nursing Foal
Username: Jens

Post Number: 11
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Jan.
 

Cconner
Weanling
Username: Cconner

Post Number: 24
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer, I have a maided mare bred last year (May 2005) and she became lame in late August. She showed signs of complete founder and could barely walk. Fortunately I caught it quick enough that we lasered her feet for a week and a half and she got better. She was still not up to par but was recovering well so I kept her in a stall and gave her bute every so often. One day I went out and she was so depressed and all four pasterns were extremely swollen and her nose was almost touching the ground. I immediately called several vets but no one could come out until the next day and she was not able to be trailered. We lasered her feet and gave her banamine and the vet came out the next day and she showed NO signs like the day before, the vet could not even treat her because her pasterns were fine, no fever, and she was bright and alert. Anyways about 3 weeks later I went out to feed in the morning and she had aborted her fetus. The next day she was walking fine, even on gravel. I have rode her a couple of times now (I have 2 small boys so I don't have time to ride anymore) and she does fine. She hasn't shown any signs of being lame since she aborted but she sure put me through hell! I had her bred 3 weeks ago and she is stuck in my barn lot for the next 340 days, so hopefully I don't have to go through that again.

Hang in there with your mare because I know what you are going through. I don't know if you know anything about using a laser but it was the only thing that kept my mare from rotating. It gets the blood flowing through their feet again so that the tissues rebuild and with my mare I saw significant signs daily that she was getting better (until she aborted) and I don't know about you but I would rather lose a fetus than my mare be crippled. Anyways hang in there!
 

Jennifer S
Nursing Foal
Username: Jens

Post Number: 12
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info. No, I have not ever used a laser, & doubt I have the funds to get one, are they expensive? I have been trying to increase her circulation, by not keeping her stalled, but in a sandy lot with soft footing (shavings), in the harder areas, I encourage her to walk about 3-4 laps around the pen 2 x/day. I have been using bute 2 gms/day to keep her out of pain. Vet says that small a dose should be fine, but another vet (who I trust more) suggested MSM. So I got some of that - will try to wean off of bute, she seems better, less acute. I just had her retrimmed today. She is really better with a small dose of bute. But I am concerned that if she still needs it by foaling time there will be excessive bleeding. We are very close to foaling, so I really want mom & baby to make it through. Maybe just a couple more weeks. She'll be at 320 on May 27. My old vet says that she will probably improve greatly once the foal is born. She's getting a good rest after that. No 07 foal....unless we do ET....Her founder is not severe, just slight rotation. Keeping the fingers crossed.
 

Cconner
Weanling
Username: Cconner

Post Number: 25
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer, yes the lasers are expensive about $3500. I also do not have the funds for one (yet) however, I know someone that has one and he helped me out greatly. Keep thinking positive and hopefully mom and baby will be fine!!
 

Jennifer S
Nursing Foal
Username: Jens

Post Number: 15
Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A follow up note...no foal yet, I'm guessing tonight. We had to put the mare on Progesterone to prolong pregnancy as she started to show signs of delivery at day 308. Vet said no-way. So we are now past 320...going off Regumate. I thought she was going to foal last night. Probably tonight for sure. Been off bute for 3 days only 1 gm for a week prior...MSM is working great...along with trims every 4 weeks. Thanks for the positive juju Cconner!
 

Jan Owen
Yearling
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 97
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer,

Very exciting, Keep us posted! Good Foaling vibes your way!

jan



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