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Signs of Pregnancy???

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Jennifer Demski
Neonate
Username: Jennifer_d

Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, new to posting here. I have been reading diligently though. I have a maiden mare that I bred by AI in late May, June, and July...no baby. Checked at 18 days each time by ultrasound. In June and July she was inseminated twice, the second time after (HCG??) she seemed to ovulate late. Any way I am noticing some strange changes in her recently. SHe is quite heavy for not being infoal and I noticed that she actually has a slight "bag". She would be anywhere from almost 7mos to 5mos if she did take. Could this just be normal hormonal changes that happen anyway and I haven't noticed it before? Kinda don't think so because I am really framiliar with her, I've had her since birth and she is now 12. Anyone have any insight for me?
 

Dorthy (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 136.181.195.17
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My vet missed our mares pregnancy by ultrasound at 18 post cover. And actually told me to take her back to the stud that she would ovulate 4 days later. Took her back where she sat not coming into heat. Called the vet twice and each time was told in NO WAY she could be pregnant. ANyway took her to a Repro specialist and sure enough she was 33 days preggo................I would think if she had gotten pregnant in the 2 earlier months it would have been noticed on the ultrasound in July--but if she had gotten preggo in July possibly the pregnancy was missed. I have another mare that was bred in March and is getting bigger every day and this same vet palptated her in July and said no she isn't preggo--but I am still thinking she may be and if she is I will for sure be finding a new vet
 

Jennifer Demski
Neonate
Username: Jennifer_d

Post Number: 2
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Friday, December 02, 2005 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dorthy,
Thanks for the insight, I forgot to mention that my mare had consistantly come back into season, but I do know 10% will still come in even pregnant, So I am still at a loss. I guess I will just have to wait and see, my concern is, if she is, (and had been bred twice per cycle) I would want to know in the case of twins. I don't know what test they would do this late, and do I spend the money if its rather unlikely.
 

Anonymous
 
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jennifer,

I just wanted to add to what Dorothy said, my husband and I breed 10-15 mares a year and have on more than one occasion had the same circumstances. (vets can and do miss them on ultrasound, I guess they just don't like to admit it) Good luck, just wait a while, spring is just around the corner and if you have a foal on the way, you'll know it very soon.
 

Jennifer Demski
Neonate
Username: Jennifer_d

Post Number: 10
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the note, I do hear of vets missing the pregnancy. I was concerned about twins. Does AI increase the chances of Twinning, or is that hogwash?
 

E Watkins
Nursing Foal
Username: Evie

Post Number: 11
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jennifer,

I can't give you any insight on the AI and twinning issue, we've always bred ours live cover. I would have to doubt that if there were two foals that your vet would have missed them both. If your mare is pregnant, at this stage, I wouldn't expect to see any changes in her udder. Our earliest mares are due in March and as of yet, they haven't show any udder changes. It's hard to keep second guessing, if you have a way to do so, maybe it would be good to get a second opinion rather than hope and wait for the rest of the winter to only be disappointed if she's not in foal.
 

Rooty (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, I don't believe that AI increases the chance of twinning, but if they are given lutylase that does.
 

Anonymous
 
Posted From: 59.167.64.245
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 03:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

whats the difference with a 'maiden mare' and regular mare??
 

Gynna Meiller
Yearling
Username: Jw_kings_excalibur

Post Number: 52
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 06:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A maiden mare is a mare that has never bred or foaled before. A broodmare is a mare that is used for breeding only/primarly.
 

Jennifer Demski
Nursing Foal
Username: Jennifer_d

Post Number: 14
Registered: 11-2005
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the advise and the info on twinning. My mare isn't pregnant, just fat and hypothyroid. GREAT. I had my NEW vet palpate and pull blood. I asked my vet to pull blood work initially when we started all this AI and was told there was no reason too. That was one expensive mistake. Boy, I wish I would have done it anyway! So, for all you newer breeders out there...take all reasonable precautions.



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