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Filly behavoir-just curious

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Terri Berwanger
Nursing Foal
Username: Terrib

Post Number: 11
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have 2 yearling fillies that we are currently breaking and both are by the same stallion. These 2 are terribly moody and when we put long lines on them they both squealed and peed all over themselves. I can't turn them out with any company as they squeal and kick the others relentlessly. Also one filly is in a pen by herself and my 8mo colt foal is in a paddock next to her, but separated by a road. When she sees him she, she sarts nickering, flicking her tail, squealing and will pee on herself. I don't think they could possibly be in season at this stage, and not every day. Also both fillies would rather back every where then lead forward and will kick you as soon as look at you. Having said all this, when you are on their backs, they are brilliant and never give you any problems other than tail flicking. Both fillies are going to be racehorses and as we aren't allowed to use regumate on racehorses here in Europe what are some options. God help them when they are gate schooling, might want to wear some water proofs! Just really curious about this behavoir exhitbited by two daughters of the same stallion. We have 4 other fillies here and they are quite normal.
Thanks
Terri
 

Lisa Weir
Yearling
Username: Pals_pal

Post Number: 78
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Terri,
My first question is....which stallion are they by? I ask because I am also into thoroughbreds and very interested in the little quirks some stallions throw.

As for their behaviour, I know that fillies sometimes urinate when they are frightened or distressed. They almost always squeal as if you're killing them. But I've only ever seen this in foals, never in a yearling. I assume they will eventually grow out of it, or at least be managable with very gentle handling. If they're being ridden, I think the worst is over. The first time with a girth is scary, no matter how nicely you do it.

I don't think any sort of drug or hormone is the answer. I guess it's just a case of desensitzing them as much as you can, and putting up with the rest! Bummer, eh?
 

LRidgeway
Yearling
Username: Laurie

Post Number: 76
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You might have them checked by your Vet, some types of tumors (on their ovaries) can cause behavioral issues. I've seen yearlings come into season before and their first heats can be long and really intense.

It would be worth it to have them looked at.
 

Terri Berwanger
Nursing Foal
Username: Terrib

Post Number: 12
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa,
Both fillies are by Orpen. (I'm in Ireland). I hadn't been around any til this year.Orpen himself is a son of Lure. Funny thing is we had a filly born here this year that was exactly the same. She was a tough nut! However, now she is fine and actually very nice. You know, both girls never gave us a problem with the girth, just long lines touching their flanks. My husband does all the ground work and he is very kind and patient so we tend to get tricky horses. I never want to get on any of them, but in fairness, we have never had any problems with horses during breaking. John is very good at reading what they can handle and when.
Laurie,
This was my first thought, to call the vet about ovaries. I just thought it strange to see the same behavoir from 2 fillies by the same stallion and wanted to see other opinions. Will call the clients and see what they want to do.
Thanks
Teri
 

Lisa Weir
Yearling
Username: Pals_pal

Post Number: 81
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The groovy thing about you being in Ireland is the fact that we get a few shuttle stallions from there. We've had two at work.

As for these Orpen fillies....they sound quite odd, indeed. I think I'd be inclined to see a vet about them, too, if it's just about the lines touching the flanks. If it is hormonal, here's hoping it settles down as they start to cycle more regularly.
*edited out a dumb question that I knew the answer to....lol*

(Message edited by pals_pal on November 23, 2005)
 

Kirstin
Neonate
Username: Kirstin

Post Number: 2
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

whats the stallion like? because a lot of stallions that are moody, or 'hot-headed' can pass this on to the foals he throws genetically.
but i would still get a vet to check them out.



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