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Hobby (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 68.216.187.22
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am saving up to breed my mare for the first time. I am going to do it AI how much money should I save up? And is there anything I can do to prepair her since its her first time? Thanks
 

Kim v.
Yearling
Username: Twhgait

Post Number: 63
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hobby, cost will depend on where you live and who you will use for the mare's end of the AI and how many attempts it takes. I also bred my maiden mare AI last year. The costs were more then I anticipated so I wish I'd have done my homework beforehand! I would start by recommending that you use an equine reproductive specialist right off. I started with my regular vet and I wasted about $400 with no success. After two trips to the specialist, she was pregnant. With that said, here's my costs from last year:
Stud fee: $600
Shipped semen: $125 per shipment. (I needed two shipments)
My regular vet: Breeding soundness exam $150. You may want to do this prior to breeding her to ensure her reproductive health. It will save you $$$ down the road if she has issues you didn't know about beforehand. This is also where my extra costs came in....I had to use hormone therapy to bring her out of her winter anestrus and then wasted a shipment and vet call on an insemination attempt trying to monitor her myself and with vet visits for ultrasounds.
When I brought her to the reproduction specialist I spent $75 plus trailering for an exam and leutalyce to get her ready to bred; she came back to the clinic in 2 days (more trailering costs) and lived there for 3 days: cost $375. While there they did the insemination, made sure she ovulated and then sent her home. She was in foal at 18 days and I'm now the proud owner of a 5 week old foal.
So, depending on how your story ends up playing out, you can at least count on a breeding soundness exam, one shipment of semen and insemination and ovulation and however many vet visits it takes! My final costs after she got in foal was $1300 including stud fee. It could have been less had I taken her to the repro specialist right away. GOOD LUCK and keep your chin up! It's a long road for some but the end result is fabulous!
 

Rooty (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 69.196.103.102
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My costs so far this year are $1400 US for stud fee (of course this is where you will get some variation!), the mare in question foaled this year so I didn't worry about a breeding soundness evaluation specifically but she was swabbed and we also discovered a cyst that had to be mapped), I can't remember the exact cost of that but probably $100ish Canadian, then probably about that again for the first ultrasound which was all we needed (thank you Baxter!)$154 Canadian for the 1st and only shipment (again thank you Baxter!), and she was confirmed in foal, single pregnancy (mare has a history of twinning)at 14 days, again about $100 Canadian and she will to checked twice more. Oh, and $20 to return the semen container.
My vets aren't specifically repro specialists, but they are very experienced with AI. However, even with the best repro vet, mares don't always catch first try, and sometimes you do need to have 2 shipments for one heat if your mare decides to delay ovulation! I had one mare last year who held on to a nice big follicle for days, even with the use of Ovuplant she didn't ovulate until far too late. Lucky for me that particular vet didn't charge me for her calls because she considered it to be bad timing and therefore her error.
 

Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk

Post Number: 119
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have not dealt with ai, only on the farm breeding, but want to caution you on the contracts in which you sign, make sure that you totally understand what your costs will be on the end of the stallions. some charge for every shipping others include a certian amount in the "breeding" fee. Also make sure the stallion in which you are choosing will work with you, they are in a service industry, stallions owners that limit the days in which they ship semen makes it very difficult on the mare owners---it is hard to control when you will need the semen for ai at all times--sometimes things happen faster than you expect, or slower than expected. Then talk to the vet in which you will be working with and discuss their fees and proceeders--they may charge a consultation fee, but most won't seeing they will get alot out of your pocket book anyways. Make sure that you understand both the vet in use and the stallions farm. You must have good communications with both. The only stupid question is the unasked one. Pick the brains of the people you will be paying for their service.

Good luck
 

Debbie Burnett
Yearling
Username: Horselady

Post Number: 92
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I paid 550 for breeding fee. My mare was bred to the stallion standing at the foaling facility by AI. No extra charges or fees. She was confirmed in foal by ultrasound, cost $12 for my share of the farm visit as 5 other mares were also being ultrasounded, and another $35 for the ultrasound. I got off easy on this one. :-) I want to ultrasound her again as she is winking a bit here and there.. though I am told this is normal. I will wait until my next mare is bred back (she was not in foal on ultrasound ) then have them both ultrasounded again to be sure my first mare has not lost the pregnancy.
Deb
 

kaseyyoung (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 199.198.254.100
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I hate (embarrassed ?) to admit it, but we paid $1,500 for AI on A Fine Romance to our mare, Eventide,last summer and I'm told the fees have increased this year. Of course my daughter was able to justify this cost due to both the mother and father's linage .
But I must admit, our little colt, Romantic Evening is worth every penny !(Ontario, Canada)
 

kaseyyoung (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

of course that was just the stud fees, and doesn't include all the 'extras' of about $1,000 over the pregnancy. Kinda like buying a car. They lure you in with the 'low payments' line, but then when you really get into it, you realize that THAT price, was for a plain-Jane, basic model. It's the 'extras' that make the whole breeding experience memorable !
 

Rooty (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 69.196.103.102
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A Fine Romance is a proven stallion, and worth the stud fee. I paid more than that for Art Deco!
 

Jennifer Graef
Neonate
Username: Kakadu

Post Number: 3
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, I paid $1500 for the stud fee. We have bred three cycles now. Each cycle was 2 ultrasounds ($35), a uterine flush ($35), one BSE ($60), I have had 2 cultures done ($35), she was put on regumate for 30 days @ $3.50/day, then there is the (lyutealayse <sp?>?) 4 times at about $20 a shot I think and the Oxytocin at $5 a shot and I have give COUNTLESS oxytocin shots.

One more try for the year and then I am going to need a break.

Actually, next year I am going to send her to the breeding farm and just pay the big stud fee ($3500) and the outragous boarding costs and let them worry with getting her into foal. They have an onsite vet and I think it is worth every penny for them to do all the work! Our vet is an hour trailer ride away and that ride stresses me out to no end, so I know the mare is upset by it.
 

AG
Weanling
Username: Tilly

Post Number: 40
Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you are very unlucky like me, I paid 650 euro covering fee (1st October terms ie. if mare is not pregnant by 1st October you get your money back). I was able to pick up the covering myself so no shipping fee.
Then I paid 300 Euro for an all inclusive AI package from the vet, including stabling and all scans to determine time of ovulation and also to determine pregnancy, insemination etc.
Mare took first time, but lost pregnancy at 7 months. (no refund for covering fee, and no return to stud) Then there was the expense of getting the vet out to manually remove the foal as she was unable to abort it herself. Then various trips to the vet to get her washed out to ensure no infection set in. (don’t remember the exact cost but it was quite expensive).
Then the following year a 400 euro covering fee (I started getting short on the cash at this stage! I also learned from my mistakes and made sure there was “live foal standing” agreement, I even went as far to make them promise me that he had to be able to run around!!). I avoided shipping fees again by picking it up myself. Then further AI fees, this time the mare was very difficult to get in foal, 3 attempts, so the cost of all the additional scans etc. It seemed like we were getting scanned constantly. About 500 euro in total.
Then difficulties after foaling (prolapsed uterus) resulting in about ten or more subsequent vet visits, I haven’t received that vet bill yet, but I assure you it going to be very big!
I have lost count of the huge expense that it has cost me to get a little foal, I would have bought a lovely fully grown fully trained one for the same price. Thankfully I have bred him for myself, if I had bred him for profit I would be at a huge loss. On a more positive note, despite all hurdles that faced my little mare, she has the most adorable little colt.
The stud fee for his sire has gone way up this year, one of the advantages of taking a bit of a risk with a young stallion, his progeny are now making him much more in demand this year. A small consolation for the huge bills I have paid!!
 

cathy Cook
Neonate
Username: Razmacat

Post Number: 8
Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I have paid a ton more for stud fees, the biggest to date is $225,000. My vet bills are atronimical but we only do the necessary, they run around $15,000 a month. those are costs! I could retire in the islands for what I spend on these girls!



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