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How soft is the pelvis area and how bagged is bagged?

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Anonymous
 
Posted From: 216.139.3.184
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mare is 332 days today. She is one that was ultrasounded at 22 days and the vet said she was NOT in foal. I gave the WNV tet., flu, rhino, e.w., and paste wormed her (ivermecterin), all in her first 90 days thinking she was not pregnant. On 4/26/05 another vet palpated her and felt a large foal almost to term. He went ahead and gave the west nile, tet. flu/rhino, floated her teeth on anesthesia, and thought nothing of it. I asked him if it was ok this late in gestation, he said there is no proof that the vaccines cause any problems. I wormed her last with Ivermectrin in March, and am waiting til after the foal is born for that. Now my question is how soft should the rearend be on a hefty hard round butt mare? When I rub my hand over either top side of her rump I notice it goes from hard to soft, and can see my hand depress the skin. Is that it? And, how bagged is bagged? If she is this close to her due date, I see swelling in the teats and they are firm between her back legs, but no waxing yet. Should they be extremely large or medium large or what?
 

Rooty (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 69.196.103.102
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Boy, I'll bet you'll be happy when this foal is born! Something that may set your mind at ease (depending on when you had the vaccinations done) is that it's really the first 60 days that are a no-no, I had a mare vaccinated at 75 days and have a lovely healthy foal. I also had that mare's teeth floated and her pre-foaling shots within the last 30 days (she foaled a little early). No problems, although the teeth float did make me a bit nervous. My vet informs me that the reason not to vaccinate in the last 30 days is because the vaccine needs the time to get into the colostrum, not because it's harmful to vaccinate.
As far as how bagged is bagged, it really depends on the individual mare. I use FoalWatch which tests the milk, rather than rely on physical signs, to predict labor. Out of 10 foals we've only missed 2, and those were "operator error"/sneaky mare reasons, not any fault of the Foalwatch.
Hope you have a healthy baby soon!
 

p collier (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 216.139.3.191
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Rooty, thanks for your information. Today my mare is 355 days (11 mos. 20 days) still no definate sign of baby coming. Bag is the same, butt is the same, no wax, nothing. I am nervous alright! Don't see much movement at all either, a lot of it is just the mare twitching flies off and her skin flapping, than a baby moving. While I hosed her off today the water was a little cold in her rear and she tucked in, while she did that I saw little ribs I think. Very very little bony structure, but nothing moved even when she tightened that region in front of her hip/gaskin/stomach, whatever it is below the swirl. I hope she hasn't lost it. Is it possible to have a twin lost 1/2 way to term on one side and still have a 2nd viable foal on the other side in there? Geez, I'm thinking all kinds of terrible things that I wish I wasn't. Is there a specific foal development timeline somewhere on line? That might help me some, and also how twins are carried inside the mare. Anyone? By the way I did have a vet look at my mare on 6/8, he said he thought she was progressing fine, and he thought she might have it within 3 days or she could go a year. She had some edema in front by her girth 6 days ago and now that is gone completely, so I guess that is good. 10 days from now will be 365 days a year, what are the chances she may go over that?
 

Rooty (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope for you and your mare's sake that this foal is born soon! My boarder has a mare that typically foals at 355 days or longer, she's just a slow cooker I guess, and has large babies. Remember not all mares wax. My Morgan mare never waxed in 2 pregnancies, our donkey never waxed, I don't think the Saddlebred did either. If you can express milk, that's the best indicator of impending foaling, there is an excellent article on this site regarding predicting foaling by the appearance of the milk. I prefer to have the FoalWatch as well, but if that's not an option for you, you can still narrow down your sleepless nights by looking at the milk.



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