Hi all, I have a mare that seems to have silent heats, or has no real sign that she is in heat, except that the stallion shows REAL interest in her. When i take her to him, she will stand for him, but she clamps her tail down. I hold her tail up so that he can do his 'business', but unlike my other mares she doesnt seem so keen. She doesnt kick or protest at all other than her tail being clamped. Do you think that she is in season at all in these periods that he is so interested in her? Why would she clamp her tail??
kimk Posted From: 18.104.22.168
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 10:40 am:
Hi, I had a maiden mare that clampped her tail tighter than a closed door the first time she was with a stallion. Take her away from the stallion and she would act normal. We had a heck of a time with her first breeding. She was scared to death of the stallion (and he behaved well too) Alot of times a stallion will think that they are in heat too when they are not, especially if mare is new to the stallion. In the wild that is how they became part of his herd and alot of times when a mare comes into a herd they really arn't in heat they tend to accept the stallion for herd reasons. My stallion of 14 years --that i just put down-- would get most incoming mares into "heat" the first two days that they were in the barn and then a couple of weeks later they would truley be in heat. It is sometimes tricky, depending on the mare and stallion... is the mare a maiden mare? That is probally a big thing. Kim
TX Breeder Posted From: 22.214.171.124
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 06:07 pm:
What you are experiencing is a submissive behavior. Many mares will exhibit submissive behavior to a stallion.
A stallion can detect (smell) the estrus and they learn when a mare is truely in heat.
That is why it is important to aggressively tease a mare to understand what is really a "standing" heat. Many breeders rely on overt behaviors without working to understand each particular mare. The quiet ones are harder. You have to notice the smallest of changes.
Posted From: 126.96.36.199
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 11:23 pm:
when you say that the stallion 'puts them in heat' you mean that she accepts him but shes not really in true heat?????? im new to breeding, but ive been around horses my whole life, so if you put a mare with a stallion, and he penetrates her, can she get pregnant if she isnt in heat? and putting her with him, does that speed up her cycle at all??
If a mare is not truly in heat, there is no ovulation, so therefore she cannot get pregnant. As TX Breeder stated, it is a submissive behavior only. I have found that putting a mare who is not in heat near a stallion can bring them into actual heat a little sooner than their normal cycle. But if they just went out of heat, don't expect to put your mare with a stallion and have her come into heat a few days later. The only way you can accomplish "short-cycling" is through a Lutalyse injection. That is usually given at least 6 days after the mare's last day of heat and will bring them back into heat in about 3 days. I would also like to mention that it really isn't a good idea to actually put a mare who is not in heat in with a stallion. One or both horses could really get hurt. I will usually put a mare in a pen near the stallion and it works well. I have had outside mares who have come to be bred in a pen near my stallion and even if he whinnied at them, they would squat and show signs of heat when they finally came into season. Especially after their first breeding.
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