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Beth
Weanling
Username: Beth13
Post Number: 45
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 02:52 am: | 
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Hi
I aim to set up a breeding and training facility for wild horses when I can and I was wondering if anyone has any advice and/ or experience with working with wild and/ or problem horses especially stuff like yard set ups etc etc. I would appreciate any and all advice! |
Michele
Yearling
Username: Mich
Post Number: 92
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 06:21 am: |
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Why would one want to breed wild horses? |
Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Tracys
Post Number: 958
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 03:41 pm: |
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I kind of had the same question  I think they breed fine by themselves. |
Beth
Weanling
Username: Beth13
Post Number: 46
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 12:48 am: |
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Here in Australia, we have alot of wild horses. Their numbers need to be controlled. The methods of how best to regain control over the numbers is controvisal. The Australian government has had our brumbies declared as pests for some time now. In NSW, the state that I live, used to use aerial culling as a means of controlling the population. It has now been banned, but in other parts of Australia, it is still practiced, even common. Some people have set up brumby registers and other similar organisations. Our [that is the people who don't want the brumbies just shot] aim is to make the brumby a proper breed. With registeries, shows, studs the brumbies will become more and more popular, and therefore more protected. I am not the only one doing this. People are registering their horses and standing stallions at stud. Have a look at some of these links if you want.
Australian Brumby Horse Register
www.abhr.com.au
Wild Horses of Western Australia www.wildhorses-wa.com
Guy Fawkes Heritage Horse Association
www.guyfawkesheritagehorse.com.au
(Message edited by beth13 on March 13, 2008) |
Beth
Weanling
Username: Beth13
Post Number: 47
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 12:54 am: |
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The last didn't come through as a link
www.guyfawkesheritagehorse.com.au |
Tracy Smith, Tali due 6/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Tracys
Post Number: 964
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 01:24 am: |
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I think Brumbies are gorgeous It's a controversial situation here in the USA as mustangs are caught every year and adopted out to try and control their populations so it always seems a little crazy when you hear about someone purposely breeding for them when so many need adoptive homes. I obviously don't know anything about the situation in Australia so I can't give good advice |
Michele
Yearling
Username: Mich
Post Number: 93
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 09:58 am: |
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Yep, can't think breeding them can be a good idea on any level. Saving them from a certain death and / or starvation certainly but not breeding them. It's not like there is a shortage of work horses anywhere incl. Australia. Last time I was there farmers in the outback were leaving farms in droves because of drought etc in pretty awful circumstances.
Breeding brumbies purposely makes about as much sense as trying to breed the feral colonies of cats which I and others feed and capture for sterilisation... |
Jenni Luttrell
Breeding Stock
Username: Bugrace2000
Post Number: 945
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 12:26 pm: |
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Beth I have a few ideas on somethings such a pens and what not. If you would like to discuss it plz feel free to email me at bugrace2000@yahoo.com |
Beth
Weanling
Username: Beth13
Post Number: 48
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 01:21 am: |
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Michele, the way I see it, breeding them in stud situations is going to create a demand for them. You adopt/catch the foundation stock, sell the progeny, then I at least [and I sure others too] go back to the wild to introduce new Brumby blood. There is many different types brumbies throught Australia, so there is no need to buy/ introduce other breeds to the herd to get different types. The more people become aware of brumbies as a breed, as horses that they can register, show, and then rebreed later on as stud stock, as like any other breed of horse, the more wild ones will have homes to go to which = less horses running wild. New Zealand has a policy I'm pretty sure, of keeping some brumbies running free, a population of manageable control, and last I heard Australia is considering something like this. This would be agreeable to everyone. |
Cjskip
Yearling
Username: Cjskip
Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 12:51 pm: |
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Beth, I think I understand where you are coming from. You are trying to keep them from being hunted, by creating recognition of the brumbies as an accepted breed of horse, just like any other; say a Quarter Horse, an Arabian and so on. Is that it? Then more people will want to adopt them, since they can be shown and the like. Would they eventually have pedigrees?
Please correct me if I'm wrong. Even of I don't have it exactly right, I can at least roughly see what you are proposing and I hope you can get some good information.
Could you go to the equivalent of the US land management agancy that catches and adopts out the horses? I believe you mentioned there was adoption of the brumbies ( I love the name) in New Zealand. They would have to have something set up for them that is suitable for containment, at least, that also protects them from injury. It might be a start. Sorry I can't be of more help. |
Beth
Yearling
Username: Beth13
Post Number: 57
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 04:06 am: |
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Cjskip, that's exactly where I'm coming from. Yes they would have pedigrees in future generations. Brumbies that are caught from from wild are eligeable for registration with the Australian Brumby Horse Registry (see above links) as are their foals. Myself and the other wonderful people who are helping the Brumbies are trying to get them recognised as breed like Arabs And QH's. When I get a chance I will check out other countries ideas on wild horses, thats a great idea!! Thanks. |
marie bing
Nursing Foal
Username: Marie09
Post Number: 16
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 07:42 pm: |
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I see what you mean about the registries. I'm not real sure i understand about the breeding though. Would it not be better to just train horses adopted from the wild and then sell them? I would think that would be a good way to show people that adopting wild ones is a better idea than encouraging people to breed these horses. I love the idea of breeding and training young horses, but since the whole idea is to get homes for wild horses why not train them for people to want?
I'm very excited to see that there are people who are so dedicated to saving wild horses. I live in the U.S.A. and have always loved the idea of wild horses, and when I'm able I would like to adopt at least one horse. |
amber roberts
Neonate
Username: Circlerstallionstation
Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 07:49 pm: |
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Beth, I think that is a great idea that you have. I think you should get with the organzation that is in charge of controling the population, (in the US its BLM). My dad two years ago got a mustang to train for program where traniers get 90days I think it was and they compete with the horse and then it is auctioned off. My dad bought his mare he trained for $5400.00 I would suggest you traing getting an adaption program like this going, take DNA on the mares from the heards and start a data base as they are adapted, geld the colts. once the program is up and running then see about doing the breeding portion of it. However I do agree with the way the economy is now and if the goverment has demed them a pest you may want to focus on getting people to adapt them, show them, and then say within a few years if owners want to bred thier mares they have to breed to stud that is say maybe in wild heard, so during breeding season you conduct roudups and lessen the likly hood of the stud breeding a whole heard, he comes in breeds these mares that are owned for a stud fee that is then put into the adapt a wild horse program, those funds could be used to promote your breed, go for up keep of the wild heards, the DNA test, etc..... but I think you need to start a desire for the horses already in the herds before people go breeding them in their back yards. The horseworld is hurting in all industries due to un-discplined breeding practices. We have more horses than demand, some horses are over priced, there is no middle market, also in the US kill plants are closed to horses, and trucking to mexico is resticted.... you have to step back and look at the big picture there. I hope everything works out and please keep us posted. |
Michelle Clarke
Neonate
Username: Cabacha
Post Number: 1
Registered: 03-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 09:12 am: |
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There are some wild herds here in the US that are well managed and popular...even bred privately with some good success. There is alot to consider before undertaking a project as this, such as your market base and what your skills are in getting those horses in front of those people. I breed Kiger Mustangs and can sure help you with some suggestions, especially getting started with handling your wild mares so you can properly handle those foals and get them socialized. You can contact me off list if you like.
http://www.ranchobayo.com/ |
Rusti
Breeding Stock
Username: Rusti
Post Number: 550
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 01:39 pm: |
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Michelle, Charro is a beauty...almost unreal...I was getting pretty excited, as I've been looking for a grullo to breed to my Spanish Mustang mare, then I got to the bottom of his page...  |
