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Diana Post
Neonate
Username: Blondana
Post Number: 1
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 11:06 pm: | 
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Hello! I have a Bay Arab mare with a blaze and two feet white. Her mother was solid bay, father with blaze and feet. She is bred to an Arab Pinto stud that has a high amount of white. I dont know if the stud is homozygous but I think he has thrown mostly white spotting. What will I get?
Also - is the gene for the blaze and white feet different than the gene for paint/pinto body spotting? Are both dominant or is the paint gene recessive?
Thanks!!!!}} |
Jenn
Yearling
Username: Jenn
Post Number: 84
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 11:08 am: |
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Hi Diana, I will try to help you out.
OK, I need more info. I tried to explain things, but there were too many variables and the post got very long and confusing.
Do you know what "paint/pinto" pattern the stud is? If you are not sure, this page may help.
http://www.apha.com/breed/geneticeq.html
To answer your last question, yes they are different genes. And, yes they are all dominant, if the horse carrys the gene it will show. If they are heterozygous for the gene they will pass it on to offspring 50% of the time. If homozygous, 100% of the time. |
Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk
Post Number: 277
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 04:25 pm: |
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This is not true in a overo, they can carry the gene and it not show. |
Jenn
Yearling
Username: Jenn
Post Number: 85
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 09:59 pm: |
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Actually Kim, you are incorrect. Sometimes in Overos the the markings are minimal and tied in with other markings (legs and face) but they are there.
(Message edited by jenn on February 04, 2006) |
Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk
Post Number: 278
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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I beg to differ, you can have a solid colored breeding stock throw a color baby. I have seen a solid breeding stock overo mare bred to a frame overo throw a lethel white baby.So the overo does not need to be seen. |
Diana P
Neonate
Username: Blondana
Post Number: 2
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 11:46 pm: |
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OK - Here is my website I made of my two Arab girls. At the bottom is a photo of the stud. Maybe you can tell me what pattern he is. I think he is Tobiano.
THANK YOU!!!!
http://www.exoticshorthairs.com/HadasandMaja.html
(Message edited by blondana on February 04, 2006) |
Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk
Post Number: 279
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 09:47 am: |
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Diana,
he does appear to be a toby, but without seeing the other side of his head I can't say for sure. If the coloring is the same, and I mean the same then yes. If the white comes over his eye and cuts up to his neck or if white extends down the face and makes a line past the corner of his eye to the corner of his mouth then he could be a tovero. Here is a link to apha to the tovero picture you can see the white on his face and jaw line. http://www.apha.com/breed/tovero.html
I would guess that the stud you have posted is a toby, but seeing the other side of his head is not shown its impossible to say yes as with the wild patterns of the paint combos almost anything is possible.
(Message edited by kimk on February 05, 2006) |
Kim k
Breeding Stock
Username: Kimk
Post Number: 280
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 09:51 am: |
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sorry I don't know why it didnt' link. I will try again.
http://www.apha.com/breed/tovero.html |
Diana P
Neonate
Username: Blondana
Post Number: 4
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 01:14 pm: |
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He is a Tobiano - what I wanted to know if I would get a solid color or any white spotting on the baby. From what I read on the link it looks like a 50% chance of getting a paint as the white blaze and socks does not constitute a white spotting factor in my mare. |
melissa
Yearling
Username: Mbgirl
Post Number: 52
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 06:13 pm: |
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Hello,
I breed my black and white tobiano mare to a solid bay breeding stock paint stud last year. My mare is on the site www.photobucket.com/albums/e329/MBhorses
I don't have a picture of the stud on me, we sold him last year. The stud was bay with blaze face and white on legs like your mares. We need to send each other pictures of the foals from this mares. My mare is the black and white tobiano and your stud is the black and white tobiano. My mare is due April 20,2006
Melissa |
