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Dapple on a bay possiblely?

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corina gabel
Breeding Stock
Username: Newyearsbaby05

Post Number: 181
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when we got my mare at 5 i guess i never noticed. But i rode her for a few months then my mom started to take care of her while i was away from home at school last year i started to see some dappling but not the conventional silver dapple. I tried to take pictures but they dont show up so i just gave up shes my mustang so god only knows what her parents looked like. Well after she had her baby someone commented on her "spots" so i thought id try to find some info on it. I still cant photograph them they dont show up. so i found this modle horse on the internet and it looks just like hers.
http://www.modelhorsejamboree.com/newwebimages/repaintbay/ejbay.jpg
hers are more around her back and but not down the legs. hers are not quite this visable. I read that the silver dapple will effect the mane and tail but hers are jet black like this model she even has the same white feet like it. Anyway is this called something diffent or is a form of dapple? Is this gentic or just a fluk? They got darker or maybe jsut more noticable this year!!

these are a few pictures you can see them kindof but not really clear
http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh170/newyearsbaby05/?action=view&current=DCA M0069.jpg
http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh170/newyearsbaby05/?action=view&current=DCA M0077.jpg


this is what i gathered but not really sure.
This effects the black coloring of a horse right? so she could have been born black and the dapple turned some hairs red or silver. If she carrys a red gene then they go red if not they go silver?? Im curious now becuase her baby was born black buy a sorrel paint stud who was out of a bay and a sorrel. The baby should be bay right?

AAAAHHHHHH
 

corina gabel
Breeding Stock
Username: Newyearsbaby05

Post Number: 182
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thisis my odds of a black.....

28.13% - Bay Tovero
18.75% - Chestnut Tovero
9.38% - Black Tovero
9.38% - Bay Tobiano
6.25% - Chestnut Tobiano
3.13% - Black Tobiano
3.13% - Bay Frame/Sabino
3.13% - Bay
3.13% - Bay Overo
3.13% - Bay Sabino
2.08% - Chestnut Sabino
2.08% - Chestnut Overo
2.08% - Chestnut Frame/Sabino
2.08% - Chestnut
1.04% - Black Sabino <------------
1.04% - Black
1.04% - Black Overo
1.04% - Black Frame/Sabino

he has a little bit of roaning from the sabino from his sire.

http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh170/newyearsbaby05/?action=view&current=DCAM0068.jpg


(Message edited by newyearsbaby05 on July 15, 2008)

(Message edited by newyearsbaby05 on July 15, 2008)
 

Cathy
Breeding Stock
Username: Cathy

Post Number: 320
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corina the mare looks like a bay with the sooty gene.
Our stallion is buckskin with the sooty gene and has the same dappling.
 

corina gabel
Breeding Stock
Username: Newyearsbaby05

Post Number: 185
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

can you get me pictures???i love to see pictures i did some looking and that looks liek her to.... is there anything that would let me know eather way? is his genetic? my big thing is the babys dad was a sorrel tovero and the mare apears to be bay. This baby came out black!
http://s256.photobucket.com/albums/hh170/newyearsbaby05/?action=view&current=DCAM0073.jpg

(Message edited by newyearsbaby05 on July 15, 2008)
 

Cathy
Breeding Stock
Username: Cathy

Post Number: 321
Registered: 04-2005
Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corina Black is one of the expected colors to get from that match. You can have the foal tested for black and agouti. That will tell you for sure what color he is.
 

Princess
Neonate
Username: Princess

Post Number: 6
Registered: 07-2007
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a mare with the same dappling as in the photo of the model. From what I gathered it can be called lots of different phrases in different areas. My mares dapples are very similar as grey dappling. It looks very spectacular and she has dappling mainly on her body, she has very black legs, mane and tail and a bay face with some dark points. My mare only gets the dappling around summertime. She goes a very dark bay around coat change and goes a beautiful ginger colour in winter. I just love bays. Your mare and foal are stunning!
 

mariana cremonte
Breeding Stock
Username: Mariana_cremonte

Post Number: 236
Registered: 05-2007
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Corina, my mare looks just like yours, and my foal is black -just got him tested!- although the chances of him being black were few, like yours, as Cathy says, black is one of the possible colours. As far as dappling my mare has them also, and I read -donīt know if the source was reliable dough- that nobody knows what produces it, some even sayed the type of feed the horse got when growing. Like yours, my mare also could be buckskin, so I tested the foal for cream but nope!, just plain black
If you want to be sure and are very curious about it, then test!!
Your horses are beautiful!
 

corina gabel
Breeding Stock
Username: Newyearsbaby05

Post Number: 220
Registered: 01-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thankyou guys. I wish i new or could find something out about her parents. We think eather her mother was pregers when she was adopted which would account for no brand on the baby or her mom was bred to one of the kigers mustangs. we have 3 beautiful kiger stallions with in about 1 to 2 hour drive one of them is about 10 mins from where we bought her. The previous owner told us mustang quatercross.

this color does go away in the winter but she gets 3 to 4 inches of fur in the winter! its the mustang thing she looks preaty homly for a few months! this seems to come as soon as the winter coat is gone and then doesnt leave tell the full winter coat is here.

i thnk that i will test for sabino and black when i do get it done. the dady is a tovero with major the sabino roaning up both of his flank spots on each side, this roaning didnt come out tell 3 so id like to know so i can sell this baby.



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