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Appaloosa people, registration question..

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Jane Olney
Breeding Stock
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 583
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

YEA! I got my papers today. It is official...my young man is registered.

Most of you know Woody. He is a chestnut leopard. The certificate states he is a red roan. I can send it back for corrections. Shouldn't it list him as a chestnut leopard?
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/shotsnurse1/P3140007.jpg
Should I send it back for correction?

The only things that have roaned on him are the ears and the mane.

It is not correct...or is it?
 

Kim Peavy/ Sweetie 7/3/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Lovemysinbad

Post Number: 138
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jane: I too hardship registered my daughter's pony...as long as the photo of him is attached, I don't think it matters...you won't be breeding him, he's gelded, right? So really doesn't matter, it is just a matter of your personal preference....my daughter's registration papers came back with his photo's right on them....so I think as long as they can look at the picture and see it is the same horse....it should not matter...but that's my opinion and I have not been to a appaloosa only show with him....can you email the club? Kim
 

Jan Owen
Senior Stallion or Mare
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 1345
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Friday, March 28, 2008 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Congrats on gettin Mr Woody's papaers! Roan? Hello? Looks leopard to me :-) Maybe call them and ask...oh bother.
 

Michele
Yearling
Username: Mich

Post Number: 94
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 01:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He's obviously a red [chestnut] leopard and the ApHC made a mistake. I would get them to change it for the sake of accuracy. You never know what happens in the future.
Also, when one is checking through bloodlines / colours before breeding certain lines, one would like an accurate picture of the offspring produced.
 

Kim Peavy/ Sweetie 7/3/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Lovemysinbad

Post Number: 139
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jan, me again, I checked "Stormy's" papers....he is also a leopard...sure enough, they noted him as a red roan, but description says "white with spots over entire body/Star/No leg markings....

here is his pix:

http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/kwpeavy/?action=view&current=stormy4-16 010.jpg
http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/kwpeavy/?action=view&current=MSCshowSep t30004.jpg
http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/kwpeavy/?action=view&current=IMG_0165.j pg

Wonder if that's how they color code them when they are leopards....maybe leopard is not an "official" color......I guess I was ok with it, because they described him property in his color description....hope that helps...Kim
PS - Woody is a real handsome man....leopard's have always been my favorite and I know you were thrilled when you saw what your mare had produced!! Good Luck
 

Kim Peavy/ Sweetie 7/3/08
Breeding Stock
Username: Lovemysinbad

Post Number: 141
Registered: 09-2007
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oops Michele, I forgot to mention, I was assuming that Jane hardship registered Woody because she didn't have any information on his sire, etc. I had none on my daughter's pony and therefore all his sire/dam information say unknown, that is why I was trying to explain it really didn't matter unless she was breeding or something.....no one would ever be able to look at my pony and tell who's offspring it is.....just to clarify...kim
 

Jane Olney
Breeding Stock
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 584
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks guys! I just looked again at the registration. Yes, the description is correct. They just list the color as red roan. His description says "white with spots over entire body/no face markings/no leg markings". His two side pictures are on the back.

No, no breeding for him. The papers are to show in the appy shows and to make him more marketable one day when he needs a new girl to love him.

His Mom is registered, but on his registration it lists dam and sire as unknown. It was easier this way because I don't really own Mom. She is a free forever lease. Her owner said she couldn't sell her as sound because of moon blindness issues in the past and questionable vision problems....I think she is night blind too. Anyway, she is the best mare I have ever had. She is a great mother and she has given my daughter so much confidence....

Yes, he was a shock considering we really do not know who the daddy was. Also Mamma has had only solid babies (probably roaned and probably with traits) in the past with her prior owner. Those babies were quickly sold.

Kim-Your appy certainly is not a roan either...maybe this is how all leopards descriptions are listed. I will give them a call this next week. I have 30 days to get it changed without them charging me.
 

Catherine Owen
Yearling
Username: Cateowen

Post Number: 95
Registered: 12-2007
Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jane, we had a lot of Apps many years back. No longer but I am very familiar with the breed.

The best I can remember, the "color" is what they call the "base color" and then the leopard is in the description, i.e., spots on body.

If I had to give your colt a "base color", then I probably would call him a red roan too as there isn't too much except red/white to go by. The pic doesn't show his face but his ears look "roany".
The leopard isn't considered a "color" but a description. We had a red leopard mare and this was how she was colored (red roan) and then described: White with spots over entire body.

I think your papers are probably accurate, call them and discuss with the registry. Its sort of a moot point anyway as I think the Apps still put pics on the registration papers.
 

Jane Olney
Breeding Stock
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 586
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK, Yes, he is a red roan. Thanks everyone! His ears and mane has roaned. He just has that added leopard thing...



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