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I dont know what color and I am impatient! lol

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ashley donahoo
Neonate
Username: Tigereyes0504

Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know what color my baby's foal may be? She is due in may and i am really anxious! She is a bay, both parents were bay. Sire is leop. appy. both his parents were appy and his grand parents. I think the baby will be gorgous anyways but I am just curious bout the color.
here is her pic
http://a820.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/98/m_be36ce7e517dee2efc1da5af2c7e6 c2b.jpg.
here is his
http://a7.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/123/m_3c76e8bf1643b1da8a8e5d8c71bccb 36.jpg
 

JANE OLNEY
Breeding Stock
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 432
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He is a heterozygous...this is leopard.. appy. Because your mare is not an appy, you have less chance for color. If he were a homozygous appy...this is few spot or snowcap...appy, you would have more chance for color. It looks like the daddy is chestnut based. Hard to tell. You might get a very nice bay appy. You very well could get one that looks like Daddy, but tricolored..being a bay. You may get a solid baby with mottled skin....that roans out...or stays solid.

This is Amber with Woody. She is homozygous...a few spot appy, with the ability to pass on full body white to her offspring. Woody has spots because he is heterozygous. It is unknown who his daddy is, but DEFINATELY not an appy. I have found out her other babies were solid color....who knows maybe they roaned out...don't know. These were from a solid daddy.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/shotsnurse1/P6250005.jpg

Because all appys are so different..there is no way to tell. Because Daddy is heterozygous, you have less chance for color.

There is a researcher in Canada named Sheila Archer who has written a few fabulous articles that will help.
http://www.reining-appaloosa.com/PuzzleWorthSolving.htm
 

JANE OLNEY
Breeding Stock
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 433
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Look at diagram 5 in the article. It is at the very end. This is your combination. Keep in mind the LPlp range from full leopard to solid with a spotted blanket.
 

JANE OLNEY
Breeding Stock
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 434
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the sire is chestnut, you could get a bay, chestnut, or black, as the base color.
 

ashley donahoo
Neonate
Username: Tigereyes0504

Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok... so it could look like the sire and the spots be a diff. color or it could have a diff. body color? sorry this stuff confuses me. but since he is heterozygous there is a larger chance for it to look more like him instead of her right... or am i not understanding... lol who knew i would use all of this science after school!
 

JANE OLNEY
Breeding Stock
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 435
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, since he is heterozygous there is less of a chance of the baby getting appy color.

I think it is 50/50...but the non appy 50% "may carry some white pattern modifier genes"....I don't know what that means.

My daughters friend has an appy that is a bay. She is solid with a few white hairs all over...with no mane, forelock and a rat tail. She has some motteling, not very much. So, I would call her sort of a solid appy with some white pattern modifier genes. She certainly has the classic no mane and tail.

All in all you will have a nice surprise whenever it gets here.
 

Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 840
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ashley, I am no expert and bow to those who know more but I have a friend who breeds 1/2 appy/arabs for indurance riding and all 3 times she has gotten color. Maybe not loud at first but her babies have eventually shown their spots so you have some hope beyond first inspection :-) It should be a beautiful baby no matter what
 

ashley donahoo
Neonate
Username: Tigereyes0504

Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know it will be pretty! I am in love with the way mommy and daddy look. lol. I kinda hope it has spots though. at least some...If not oh well. I read somewhere that they can turn out like a roan coloring too. what do you guys think?
 

JANE OLNEY
Breeding Stock
Username: Shotsnurse1

Post Number: 436
Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You want a prediction? Bay with a spotted blanket.
 

ashley donahoo
Neonate
Username: Tigereyes0504

Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that would be great... thats kinda what i am hoping for... lol i would prefer it to at least have a blanket...



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