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Foal Color Question

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Kim E
Neonate
Username: Lildude2

Post Number: 4
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, I thought I new something about color but this has thrown me and shown me that I know nothing.

We just had a foal born that looks perlino with the blue eyes. Sire is chestnut. Dam is reg as chocolate taffy. The dam is a very dark chocolate with roaning with a dark toffee colored mane and slightly darker tail. Forelock is creamy.

Sires sire is chestnut pinto, dam is palomino.

Dams sires is perlino and dam is chestnut roan.

What am I missing??
 

Emily West
Breeding Stock
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 287
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kim,
If the dams sire was perlino that means the dam definatly would have a cream gene. So that would mean the foal could have a cream gene.
 

Emily West
Breeding Stock
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 288
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kim,
Do you have any pictures of the sire and dam of the foal as well as a picture of the foal that you can share? That might help.
 

Emma
Breeding Stock
Username: Emma

Post Number: 188
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the dams sire was perlino and the dam's dam was chestnut then the creamy foals dam must be a palomino, not a taffy. My bet is she is a smutty palomino. If the sire of your 'creamy' foal is chestnut my guess is you foal is not a perlino but a very light palomino. We have a cremello stallion and last season we bred to a outside palomino mare, her foal ws born a very light creamy colour and her owner thought she had a cremello filly as she was born with blue eyes and pink skin. I was pretty sure from her description that the foal was palomino and after a couple of weeks the foal skin went dark as well as her eyes. I might add all palomino foals eyes are born a dark blue ... cremello's and perlino's have ice blue eyes.
 

Kim E
Neonate
Username: Lildude2

Post Number: 5
Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for your replies, they were very helpful. Maybe I will get the hang of this genetic stuff eventually.

Emily, here are some photos of the dam, sire and foal. Hope they help.

http://s234.photobucket.com/albums/ee104/littledudemp/

Thanks again, your replies are very much appreciated!!

Kim
 

Emma
Breeding Stock
Username: Emma

Post Number: 189
Registered: 09-2005
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cute :-)
I can understand why you would think the mare is a taffy! But on closer inspection she looks like a smutty palomino and the very cute baby looks just like the filly I mentioned above. It's coat should darken as it ages :-)
 

Jan Owen
Breeding Stock
Username: 1frosty1

Post Number: 645
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kim, Can't help a thing with color genetics but can tell you that filly is darn cute!!! Congratulations!
 

Audrey Crosby McLellan
Neonate
Username: Accphotography

Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is there any possibility the sire is actually a palomino? He looks like he could be. In that case, the filly could be a cremello.

ACC



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