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Saffron
Breeding Stock
Username: Saffron

Post Number: 255
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all.
I have a lady with a mare who is interested in breeding with my stallion...the thing is her mare has the same father as my stallion...she has no problem with this and i know it happens often BUT is it ok or is it too close for comfort? To me it seems just too close in the pedigree but is that my problem? Should i say something or is this no problem? I am a bit confused because i have seen this often!
 

Debbie Burnett
Breeding Stock
Username: Horselady

Post Number: 311
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I personally would not line breed this close. Alot of people do, especially when they are breeding for particular traits that both horses have, hoping to get the same in the foal, but line breeding this close can also amplify the bad traits in both horses pedigree.

Remember as the stallion owner, your stallion will be measured by the quality of foals he puts on the ground. It is a double edged sword and as a stallion owner myself, I would not breed that close up in the pedigree in fear of the resulting foal having undesirable traits that could be attributed to the quality of my stallion.

Deb
 

Lisa R.
Yearling
Username: Lisa98

Post Number: 91
Registered: 02-2007
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Debbie, especially with the consideration of your stallion's reputation. Being that close can produce a really nice baby; but it can also lead to disastrous results. In the end that choice is up to you though.
 

Saffron
Breeding Stock
Username: Saffron

Post Number: 256
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So just as one problem is solved another arises....now i have someone with a 2 year old mare!!Ok she is born in January but still this must be too young ???????Thanks for ideas...i dont want to get a reputation of turning everyone away!!
 

Emily West
Breeding Stock
Username: Paintlover

Post Number: 261
Registered: 06-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some people do breed at two while others prefer to wait until at least three. However it also depends on each horse. I have seen some two year olds that look to be full grown and do not grow much after. Other two year olds look like small yearlings. Use your judgement. Take a look at the mare and see what you think.
 

Debbie Burnett
Breeding Stock
Username: Horselady

Post Number: 312
Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dont breed my mares until they are 3. Some start earlier, I guess its a matter of choice and readiness of the mare.
 

Saffron
Breeding Stock
Username: Saffron

Post Number: 257
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok i think i will take a look and see, i think it is to early but if the mare is well developed then i guess its the owners decision!!Thanks all!!
 

Shelley Graham
Weanling
Username: Shelley

Post Number: 47
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I worry that you run the risk of the mare rejecting the baby if she is too young. She may seem physically ready, but I doubt a 3 year old is really mature enough to care for a baby. I have seen mares under 5 walk away from their newborns. With encouragement, one mare learned to care for the foal, but I've also seen one completely reject the baby. NOT on my farm....I wouldn't breed any mare under 4. I dunno...just seems too dangerous for mother and baby.
 

Teresa Byersdorf
Nursing Foal
Username: Bravehart

Post Number: 14
Registered: 04-2007
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I normally don't breed a horse until it's 3...but I did for the 1st time last year breed a mare that was a month short of her 3rd birthday. It was a case of breed her now or not having the stud available later for her and I really wanted that particular match. She had a picture perfect pregnancy, but I worried over her the whole time. She foaled as a 3 year old and while she has done her job as a mom, she is not as good a mom as my older mares. She feeds him...but I typically find him with the other mares and she has wandered off. If the colt goes looking for her, which he will to nurse..she lets him, but she really doesn't have much else to do with him. The other mares have adopted him and he thinks everyone in the field is his mom :-) It's worked out fine for him since he has the others, but I would be pretty worried over the situation if it was just the mare and foal....I swear she only lets him nurse because she gets uncomfortable with a full udder. I don't think I will ever breed a two year old again, not worth the risk and worry!
 

Saffron
Breeding Stock
Username: Saffron

Post Number: 258
Registered: 01-2007
Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 2 year old myself and would NEVER breed her now...she is to me still a baby, she still nips and does silly things plus i worry about joints, bones and ligaments that are still growing!!! But its not my mare and if i say no she will go elsewhere, i dont know???



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