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Stallion launching at mares to breed.

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Stallion launching at mares to breed.

Postby New to it » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:53 pm

Hi there, I am new here. Just looking for some ideas. I have a young stallion. 4yrs old, he is a gentleman to handle, working on breaking him so right now he is green broke.

He has bred 4 mares, 2, of those this past June and I am in the middle of figuring out if they caught or not.

My issue, on the last one we bred, thank god they stand REALLY well. He has decided he is going to launch himself at them from about 10 ft away. The first time it took me by surprise, the second time I got him closer, he used to nuzzle and lick, then get on when I told him but not now. Last night I took him to tease and loose lead licking her face and perfect gentleman, ask him to back verbally, he backs, no issue. She swings her butt to him.. he jumped on the fence.

so, brought her up to breed.. he tried launching a few times, and I caught him, gave him crap and made him be a gentleman until I asked him to move forward. He will back, walk in a circle etc... I got him about 2-3 ft away and he launched himself. Finished successful.

How do I stop that? I know it will not stop over night. I have a chain over his nose and a dressage whip (and helmet)
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Re: Stallion launching at mares to breed.

Postby Jos » Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:25 am

Without seeing the whole situation, this isn't really something that can be safely "solved" on a bulletin board, as there may be other factors of which you are not even aware at play. In all likelihood, it boils down to good ground manners, so it's back to the basics. We do offer some general handling suggestions in a video interview we did, which may help a bit (follow that link).
We're always happy to try and help, but don't forget to check the articles section
of the website too, which has a search engine to help you look for answers!
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Re: Stallion launching at mares to breed.

Postby New to it » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:26 am

Thank you Jos,

I did go back to the old board and got some good ideas off of there. He just gets to 'eager' and cant handle it.. so from what I read, more controlled time spent around mares without breeding would be my first step.

I would like to know what you think of how I am doing it though.. I have a specific halter and chain and crop for him (over nose) for breeding time. I have the mare in a pen next to him, he has electric fence on top of post and rail, then a 4ft section in between so I can tell when they are in heat and receptive. When it is time to breed, I handle him and wait at the bottom of his paddock. I dont catch him until the mare is ready to be set up. We bring the mare into his pen, and tie her to a big tree, one or two monitor her, I deal with him. (we have safetly procautions in place to cut leads etc)

I approach from the side of the haunches, but if he rushes on the way or starts screaming, he goes in circles, if he pulls on the line, he goes back to the bottom of the pen and we start again, if I say whoa and back and have to put pressure on the lead, we go back.. I can get to about 3ft now before he launches... but, he is totally listening, until she moves, then he 'looses' it.

I am thinking about riding/working him good before hand, then using a mare that is receptive so he doesnt get hurt, but just making him be in the same pen, breeding situation until he is calm, if he is, reward is breeding, if he is not, then we stay there all day, or he learns we dont breed everytime?

Is that reasonable?

I can breed him, and then the next day saddle up and go for a trail ride with mares with just 'slight' interest but he is also 4 and needs to be socialized more as he does that with geldings as well. He is a gentleman until he is 3ft away from the breeding tree.
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Re: Stallion launching at mares to breed.

Postby New to it » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:46 pm

Tried a few things this weekend... Riding him then breeding really helps to take the 'edge' off him. And, as someone suggested, putting a bit in his mouth to help control, I can get him about 2 ft away with him standing paying attention to me, then I send him, will work on getting closer, but at least he is listening 'better' and it is safer.
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