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New to AI and I need help

Discuss all kinds of problems encountered in breeding mares from not standing for live cover, through to not getting pregnant for unknown reasons!

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New to AI and I need help

Postby mjb78 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:46 pm

Hello all. I'm new here but wow there is so much info here! I'll try to keep this simple if I can.

Mare: 11 yrs old with four previous foals. 2 were the result of live cover and two were the result of AI. She was left open for two yrs before I bought her due to the owners dispersing the business and prepping to adopt their two foster sons.

Took mare in for culture in March, and was in full blown heat. Vet collected culture and AI'd 2 days later. Ovulation at 24 hrs post AI. Culture came back beta strep and she was treated with uniprim durinh course of the breeding cycle. Did not take.

Second cycle aided by P4 to help with uterine tone. AI'd. Ovulated at 16 hrs post AI. Didn't take.

Now, I've read thru some of these topics and if I'm reading correctly, this was done poorly either by my lack of knowledge or???. Shouldn't this mare have had at least another culture to confirm she was clean? And would uterine tone not have been detectable the first time? Communication was horrid and if I'm correct, I should be hunting another facility?

That being said, can you please tell me what steps I need to take now to ensure a better 2015 season? What tests should I insist on and in what order? Does uterine tone (that got better with p4) indicate a hormone problem? I'm only asking because I really feel like this season was hndled sloppy and I'm afraid the lack of knowledge on my part may have led to my being taken advantage of. At the very least, I feel we should've confirmed her clean before she was ever inseminated. I'm thinking back to the beta strep and how it is cleaned up. But then I've read Jo's cytology thread and thought OH NO, because to my knowledge it was never done.

:( I feel so dumb but I'm here to hopefully get educated. Please tell me how you would proceed. Thank you in advance
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Re: New to AI and I need help

Postby Jos » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:38 pm

mjb78 wrote:That being said, can you please tell me what steps I need to take now to ensure a better 2015 season? What tests should I insist on and in what order?


Well, start with a culture and cytology ideally on the cycle before you plan to breed - or even the one before that if you have enough time (as that will allow time for treatment if necessary). You now know that a cytology smear is important... ;)

Does uterine tone (that got better with p4) indicate a hormone problem?


No, not necessarily. From what I'm reading, your mare was evaluated with "poor tone" when in estrus ("heat") - which should be the case at that point! Mares in diestrus, when under the influence of progesterone improve tone, but that tone decreases when estrus occurs, as the progesterone levels drop. You also need to be cautious of an immediate recommendation to supplement P4 or a progestin without diagnostics. Progestins are the most over-used drug in equine reproduction! See [email=http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/Regumate.shtml]this article[/email] for details on that...!

I'm thinking back to the beta strep and how it is cleaned up. But then I've read Jo's cytology thread and thought OH NO, because to my knowledge it was never done.


If - and without the cytology smear one cannot really know for sure it wasn't a contaminant - there was a Strep. issue then typically the minimum treatment is 3 intra-uterine infusions of a suitable antibiotic. Under-treatment (a single treatment or attempting systemic treatment rather than topical) has the potential to result in other issues such as resistant organisms or invasion of the uterus by opportunistic pathogens such as yeast or Pseudomonas... :o

I feel so dumb but I'm here to hopefully get educated.


No point in feeling dumb. The dumb ones are the ones that keep doing the same thing over and over and don't think they need to learn... :)

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