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Stallion suddenly uninterested

Discuss regular and advanced stallion handling, from live cover to phantom training.

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Stallion suddenly uninterested

Postby CREquinesites » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:10 pm

I have a 3 y/o stallion standing at a breeding barn for the season. The stallion handler has trained several young horses in the last few years, and while not a big-time handler, he has been successful in the past. He has been collecting my stallion off and on for a month or so, and had no problems at all. Suddenly yesterday, my colt was totally uninterested in the phantom, where before, he was VERY excited to collect. There are 2 mares on site for teasing that are hot in heat. My colt is not interested at all.

He is housed in a stallion barn, away from mares.
He gets turnout time every day for a little while.
He has been VERY good about collecting in the past month.

On Friday, he had his wolf teeth pulled. He does not appear to be in pain.

We may give him bute and see if his mouth is causing a distraction.

Do you have any other ideas? We have a mare that will be ready for shipment within a few days! :-(

Thanks,

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Re: Stallion suddenly uninterested

Postby Jos » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:37 pm

At three, a colt is still young and environmental variables can play a huge part in response in a sexual situation (he's not a stallion until he's four! :)), so something as simple as getting after him a little more for a perceived misbehaviour can completely shut down a colt of this age, and consequently it would be a good starting point to take a careful look at the last few - last one in particular - collections and see if there was something that might have happened - even apparently minor and trivial to the human eye - to produce this effect. If using a tease mare, reviewing her behaviour would also be important in case she was less than encouraging.

Failing that, certainly the fact that his teeth being worked on in close proximity time-wise to the start of the (lack of) behaviour is worthy of consideration. There could even be an intangible connection (to us mere humans) such as the person that handled him when getting his teeth done being the same person that handles him for collection (the link being "I got hurt by this person when they worked on my teeth, are they going to hurt me again?"). The teeth are a definite possibility.

As you have him in a stallion barn, you are also going to see a reduction in endogenous testosterone levels, so you might want to consider placing him in a harem situation for a while if the behaviour continues, which may increase testosterone and libido and get his enthusiasm for life back again.
We're always happy to try and help, but don't forget to check the articles section
of the website too, which has a search engine to help you look for answers!
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Re: Stallion suddenly uninterested

Postby CREquinesites » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:39 pm

Thank you, Jos! He is about 9 or 10 hours away, but I may drive down to be a different handler for collection if they feel it will help. I attended one of your seminars years ago, and used to do all of my own collecting/shipping, until hurting my knee. It is better now, and I could do it. I've forwarded your thoughts to the stallion manager. It encourages me that he and I came up with the same ideas, so we were on track with some potential solutions. :-)
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Re: Stallion suddenly uninterested

Postby Becca » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:04 pm

Some stallions do that once in a while. I don't use a phantom, but my stallion does become more involved in the feed bin than he does with the girls sometimes. It may be his mouth, I also know people that put things on a stallion (vaseline) to keep them from getting study, and it winds up messing with their long term ability to smell. Give him a few days off, then try again.
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