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White milk at only 9 months gestation?

Once the mare is in foal the question period should be over, right? Wrong! It's only just beginning! Discuss ideas and tips here for management techniques for the pregnant mare, and the new born foal and it's mother.

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Re: White milk at only 9 months gestation?

Postby Jos » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:15 pm

If the mare has mastitis (possibly in addition to the other issues) - which does sound a possibility - it's only going to respond to the antibiotics that are currently in use of the causative pathogen is going to be susceptible to that antibiotic.

Your vet is going to be your best help at this point as they will have diagnostic tools at hand.

Good luck and fingers crossed!
We're always happy to try and help, but don't forget to check the articles section
of the website too, which has a search engine to help you look for answers!
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Re: White milk at only 9 months gestation?

Postby CHCrystal » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:05 pm

So we milked out both sides and it appears to pure old blood, no sign of the previous milk, no pus. Cultured and sent that off. Could this be a side effect of the pentoxyfiline? We've taken her off it, just in case, along with the regumate since we are at your recommended 300 mark.

Ultrasound showed an active baby, but it was stressing too much to stay in long enough to get a good thickness measurement. The previous fluid between the placental layers was no longer there, and no other signs of separation. Appears conditions have improved (Y) .

ETA - Ended up being a nasty sulfa-resistant mastitis. Appears to have responded well to 10 days IV antibiotics. Hopefully she has enough time to build up some colostrum now.

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Re: White milk at only 9 months gestation?

Postby CHCrystal » Mon May 19, 2014 3:01 pm

Last ultrasound (327) vet said if he hadn't seen her before now, he'd say we have nothing to worry about. Very active HUGE baby, thickest measurement found was 14.

Poor mare is miserable, extremely uncomfortable and restless all the time, baby dropped last week, tone has been diminishing daily, bag increases daily... Today we are at 330. She looks like all systems "GO" for foaling, waxed (again), sailor's walk, 180 on her personality...

QUESTION: Vet had us put her back on the regumate at 304/305 days and wants her on it through 340 days (discussed with local university). I haven't been able to get anyone but the receptionist so I thought I'd ask here...
Are there any increased risks to her foaling while still on the regumate? Is she more likely to have cervical damage :?:

I'd like her to hold on as long as possible, but the way she's looking and acting today, she appears to be gearing up with or without our blessing... Just want to make sure we're helping, not hindering. The stud she's bred to has sired the earliest foals we've ever had over the last two seasons. Her last filly, born in April was at 338 days, though it was several years back.
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Re: White milk at only 9 months gestation?

Postby Jos » Tue May 20, 2014 9:41 am

There have been several pieces of research that indicate that mares can and do foal safely "through" Regumate (e.g. Neuhauser S, Palm F, Ambuehl F, Aurich C. (2008) Effects of altrenogest treatment of mares in late pregnancy on parturition and on neonatal viability of their foals. Exp Clin Endocrinol Diabetes. 116(7):423-8) - which does rather lead to the question as to why so many people use it to allegedly "maintain a pregnancy" after 100 days! :)
We're always happy to try and help, but don't forget to check the articles section
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Re: White milk at only 9 months gestation?

Postby CHCrystal » Mon May 26, 2014 4:18 pm

May 23rd 3:43AM big, robust, healthy colt born to this mare. "Textbook" foaling at 334 days. Mom and baby both doing great and his IgG were well over 800 at 8 1/2-9hrs old.

Thanks for helping us get here Jos. Amazed and thankful we were lucky enough to have such a good resolution :D.

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Re: White milk at only 9 months gestation?

Postby Jos » Tue May 27, 2014 8:55 am

Wonderful! :)

Did you start the foal on a course of broad-spectrum antibiotics (such as Ceftiofur)? Remember that he has probably been exposed to a pathogen in utero so is high-risk for neonatal septicaemia...
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